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ConnectionPilot 06-16-2006 03:40 PM

I need advice from a Regional Pilot
 
Currently I'm a student at Delta Connection finishing up my commercial rating. The concern I have is that the training at DCA goes so slow and I spend so much so I don't think doing my multi or my CFI there is a good idea. I've talked to ALL ATP and I'm interested in their CFI program because its much shorter. One of the questions I have is, if I leave DCA and go to ALL ATP and get about 300 or 400 hours dual given to get me up to 500-600tt, how tough would it be to get a job with the regionals that hire with those mins. Any thoughts, please let me know thanks.

KiloAlpha 06-16-2006 03:43 PM

I have 800tt and cant get into a GOOD regional; if there is such a thing.

rickair7777 06-16-2006 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot
Currently I'm a student at Delta Connection finishing up my commercial rating. The concern I have is that the training at DCA goes so slow and I spend so much so I don't think doing my multi or my CFI there is a good idea. I've talked to ALL ATP and I'm interested in their CFI program because its much shorter. One of the questions I have is, if I leave DCA and go to ALL ATP and get about 300 or 400 hours dual given to get me up to 500-600tt, how tough would it be to get a job with the regionals that hire with those mins. Any thoughts, please let me know thanks.

I don't think any regionals are hiring off the street with those times, you generally have to attend one of their affiliated bridge programs.

It sounds like a good plan, but stick with the CFI a little longer until you get 1000.

ConnectionPilot 06-16-2006 09:43 PM

yea I'm goin part 61, I'm gonna take the 141 road all the way. with my age being 20, it would be hard enough to get a job if I didn't do the CFI deal. I guess its not bad to do 500tt then send in a resume, if you don't get the job, do it again at 600. Would that look bad?

Punkpilot48 06-17-2006 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
I have 800tt and cant get into a GOOD regional; if there is such a thing.

I thought you were offered an XJT job?

Flyby1206 06-17-2006 08:27 AM

The nice thing about the ALL ATP cfi program is that when you are finished you can instruct for them. 90% of your dual given will be multi time, so when you hit 1000TT you will have way over 500 multi, which will look good for the regionals.

rickair7777 06-17-2006 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot
yea I'm goin part 61, I'm gonna take the 141 road all the way. with my age being 20, it would be hard enough to get a job if I didn't do the CFI deal. I guess its not bad to do 500tt then send in a resume, if you don't get the job, do it again at 600. Would that look bad?

No, that would be good.

1) It shows interest
2) They might get in a bind and call you at 700 hours, it has happened.

ConnectionPilot 06-18-2006 05:21 PM

now when I send in resumes and applications and I really want a job, should I just send them to as many airlines as I want? and that would give me a better chance of being called back right?

rickair7777 06-18-2006 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot
now when I send in resumes and applications and I really want a job, should I just send them to as many airlines as I want? and that would give me a better chance of being called back right?

I would apply to any airline that you would be willing to work for. Maybe apply to eagle just for the interview practice.

U-I pilot 06-18-2006 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
I have 800tt and cant get into a GOOD regional; if there is such a thing.
Guys, you need to get it into your head that anything is possible. I did NOT do a bridge program and my school did not get me any job. I have been offered 1 good regional job and am awaiting results from another interview.... what are my times?

Just over 700TT and under 100ME. Anything is possible if you try hard.

C175 06-18-2006 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by U-I pilot
Guys, you need to get it into your head that anything is possible. I did NOT do a bridge program and my school did not get me any job. I have been offered 1 good regional job and am awaiting results from another interview.... what are my times?

Just over 700TT and under 100ME. Anything is possible if you try hard.

Please do not use GOOD and REGIONAL in the same sentence

U-I pilot 06-18-2006 07:30 PM

thats a fair statement, but if you are talking about regionals for what they are, there are some "acceptable" ones.... is that a more correct statement? :p ;)

bla bla bla 06-20-2006 12:35 PM

my advice to you would be cut your losses now! This ant what it use to be!

Browntail 06-20-2006 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla
my advice to you would be cut your losses now! This ant what it use to be!


Then why are so many of you beating the doors down to fly a f-ing RJ for peanuts? The vast majority of you aint going nowhere, so why bother?

CL65driver 06-20-2006 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Browntail
Then why are so many of you beating the doors down to fly a f-ing RJ for peanuts? The vast majority of you aint going nowhere, so why bother?

Yeah, why don't we just ask for 747-400 FO wages to fly the right seat of an RJ, and get laughed out of every interview! Peanuts are peanuts, better than the unemployment line. It does get better with time if you can ride the wave for a while.

And--
Brownstain, If your mommy catches you on the internet before you finished your homework again, she's going to throw a fit! Back to your room!!! :D

SkyHawg 06-20-2006 02:30 PM

BT did you get hired by UPS with 500TT? Did you get your time flying MS Flight Simulator? Your reasoning is very flawed.

People got to start somewhere unless they have serious connections.

CL65driver 06-20-2006 02:32 PM

You're right, Skyhawg. We all start at the bottom and work our way up. It's not easy at first, but that's what weeds out the people who really aren't as dedicated to this profession as others.

... a breath of sanity, thank you, Skyhawg! :)

C175 06-20-2006 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by CL65driver
You're right, Skyhawg. We all start at the bottom and work our way up. It's not easy at first, but that's what weeds out the people who really aren't as dedicated to this profession as others.

... a breath of sanity, thank you, Skyhawg! :)

Brown stain is just frustrated from flying all night:D

MikeB525 06-20-2006 06:40 PM

Definently right about starting at the bottom. The regional airlines always paid low salaries, especially starting out. It's nothing new. Technically speaking the regionals today are paying more than in the past because jets come with higher salaries that turboprops. The real issue with the regional industry is the treatment/QOL, and about the lessening of the regionals being "only a stepping stone". On top of that are the issues of instability, what with the majors playing "musical regionals", getting underbid by startups or ******-@$$ outfits like Mesa, etc.

Speaking of that, on average what percentage of regional pilots eventually make it to a major carrier (legacy, cargo, LCC, etc.) I know it's all about connections, but whats the raw percentage?


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