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jgdeleon09 10-17-2009 08:55 AM

Question about this new bill.
 
I keep getting confused with everything I have read here... So in order to get hired, what is it, you need to have an atp rating? or is it just the written with atp mins?

HSLD 10-17-2009 09:03 AM

I read it as both the pilot and co-pilot would hold an ATP.

Also keep in mind (remember from civics class) that this is a just the house version of the bill. Any legislation enacted into law via the house and senate will eventualy filter to the FAA where they will consider the law in the rule making process.

Point is, it's going to be a while before you see final language in the FARs. Maybe a year? Who knows.

Thedude 10-17-2009 09:04 AM

Since its only a bill and only a bill, why not wait such questions until it becomes a law.

From the way I read it, you must have the ATP on your ticket.

FlyJSH 10-17-2009 09:04 AM

as it stands now, an ATP will be required to be an FO in a 121 aircraft three years AFTER the bill is signed.

slipped 10-17-2009 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 696043)
as it stands now, an ATP will be required to be an FO in a 121 aircraft three years AFTER the bill is signed.

I didnt know that, that changes my whole perception of this thing. I guess later better than never.

pinkpanther 10-17-2009 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 696040)
Also keep in mind (remember from civics class) that this is a just the house version of the bill. Any legislation enacted into law via the house and senate will eventualy filter to the FAA where they will consider the law in the rule making process.

Point is, it's going to be a while before you see final language in the FARs. Maybe a year? Who knows.

If they pass it into law I don't believe it will go through the same rule making process, in fact I don't think the FAA will have any say in it what so ever (like the age 65 rule was legislation that went strait to the regs and skipped the rule making process). So you could end up seeing it within months.

TurboDog 10-17-2009 10:03 AM

I think once the bill is passed, in order to get hired you must hold an ATP on your certificate. It will be those already employed that the airlines will have 3 years to equip with the ATP certificate.

BlueMoon 10-17-2009 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 696040)
I read it as both the pilot and co-pilot would hold an ATP.

Also keep in mind (remember from civics class) that this is a just the house version of the bill. Any legislation enacted into law via the house and senate will eventualy filter to the FAA where they will consider the law in the rule making process.

Point is, it's going to be a while before you see final language in the FARs. Maybe a year? Who knows.

If the House and Senate pass the bill and the President signs it, it is then law, immediately or by whatever date set forth in the bill. No FAA involvement is necessary. Just like Age 65.

We all could use a refresher!
YouTube - Schoolhouse Rock- How a Bill Becomes a Law

bozobigtop 10-17-2009 10:41 AM

Some people are counting their chickadees before they hatch as this bill attempts to clear hurdles in the senate where some senators are saying over my dead and cold body.:(

TonyWilliams 10-17-2009 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 696042)
Since its only a bill and only a bill.

why not wait until it goes up to Capitol hill ?


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