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KiloAlpha 06-21-2006 04:50 PM

Pinnacle class dates
 
I know that Pinnacle is hiring for class dates for as late as 28 August, but does anyone know if they have any later ones scheduled yet?

Thanks.

C175 06-21-2006 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
I know that Pinnacle is hiring for class dates for as late as 28 August, but does anyone know if they have any later ones scheduled yet?

Thanks.

A lot of their guys are going to fedex and airtran; i.e. attrition, very high. i'm sure they will have plenty

KiloAlpha 06-21-2006 05:28 PM

I was told there planned on running 1 class every 3 week 'til the end of the year. According to APC, it appears that they are hiring 30+ per month.

CL65driver 06-21-2006 08:29 PM

Hey KA, I'm in the Aug 7th class. Not sure of any after that.

KiloAlpha 06-22-2006 02:54 AM

How did you submit your resume? (email / fax / traditional mail)

iflyjets4food 06-22-2006 04:15 AM

A year ago, I applied to Pinnacle via email and they replied with an interview offer exactly 7 days later.

Space Monkey 06-23-2006 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
I know that Pinnacle is hiring for class dates for as late as 28 August, but does anyone know if they have any later ones scheduled yet?

Thanks.


Not sure what were up to... a couple weeks ago there was rumor on our message board that those 15 birds we lost last year were comming back.... This weeks latest and greatest crappy crew room rumor (heard this one in MEM the other day) is that not only are the 15 not comming back we are losing 25 more...... But if you really want to work here best of luck to you... Keep trying

KiloAlpha 06-23-2006 06:27 PM

Found out that dates a scheduled into October.

love2fly 06-25-2006 05:31 PM

Uhhhh..
 
Hey CL65driver, I am assuming you are comming from another airline flying the crj, or did you just think it would look cool since you just got hired at pinnacle? Just curious.

FYI, they are trying to hire for two ground schools every month to try and get 500+ this year, I was just at the CEC yesterday and talked to paula.

KiloAlfa, I emailed my resume to phigh, and got a reply the next day, so with as much as they are hiring you should have no problem

CL65driver 06-25-2006 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by love2fly
Hey CL65driver, I am assuming you are comming from another airline flying the crj, or did you just think it would look cool since you just got hired at pinnacle? Just curious.

FYI, they are trying to hire for two ground schools every month to try and get 500+ this year, I was just at the CEC yesterday and talked to paula.

KiloAlfa, I emailed my resume to phigh, and got a reply the next day, so with as much as they are hiring you should have no problem

Hey there, Love2Fly- actually I'm typed in the CL65. I was one of those suckered into RAA's Flight Officer School program. I'm not a big fan of the Academy route, but it's worked okay for me so far.

Browntail 06-26-2006 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by CL65driver
Hey there, Love2Fly- actually I'm typed in the CL65. I was one of those suckered into RAA's Flight Officer School program. I'm not a big fan of the Academy route, but it's worked okay for me so far.



Yeah, that job at Pinnacle will make it all worth it! (NOT)

CL65driver 06-26-2006 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by cynical
Yeah, that job at Pinnacle will make it all worth it! (NOT)

Eh.. i'm actually looking forward to it. Doesn't hurt to atleast start out with a positive attitude.

Browntail 06-26-2006 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by CL65driver
Eh.. i'm actually looking forward to it. Doesn't hurt to atleast start out with a positive attitude.




That won't last long.

CL65driver 06-26-2006 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by cynical
That won't last long.

Well, might as well make the best of it. It sure as heck beats being a turd herder or a bag smasher.

Not to flame anyone, but why all the negativity? We all have to start somewhere, and pay our dues over time to get what we want. Nobody's going to offer your dream job on a silver platter on day one. Yeah, the pay sucks... we can all agree on that. The schedules suck, another point on which we see eye to eye. The QOL is going to be $hit for the first few years, but everybody has to go through it at one point or another.

Like I said before, it sure as heck beats being a bagsmasher.... and all you who have done that work for any amount of time will probably agree with that.

LOW FUEL 06-26-2006 10:25 PM

The way that I look at regional airlines is that they’re all puppies from an ugly litter. No matter where you go it’s going to be ugly. But why go to the ugliest of the ugly i.e. Mesa, Pinnacle, and TSA just to name a few. If you have the time for them you should have the time for the least ugly puppy. I made the mistake and took the first job offered to me and yes it is one of the airlines I have listed above. Let me tell you it was almost a 2-year mistake. I left and the pastures are greener on the other side. If you have to say right rudder for another 3-months do it! Sky West is holding interviews every day Mon-Fri they want to hire 300+ pilots by years end…

CL65driver 06-26-2006 10:55 PM

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.... i guess :(

surreal1221 06-26-2006 10:57 PM

Don't worry CL65. Those words are not coming from those who are in your position, much less even with 500 hours of where you are. Hell, I understand it's going to take work to get to the money. It's been like that for years, and nothing is going to change within the next 5 years.

Just dust your shoulders off, and best of luck.

Browntail 06-27-2006 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by CL65driver
Well, might as well make the best of it. It sure as heck beats being a turd herder or a bag smasher.

Not to flame anyone, but why all the negativity? We all have to start somewhere, and pay our dues over time to get what we want. Nobody's going to offer your dream job on a silver platter on day one. Yeah, the pay sucks... we can all agree on that. The schedules suck, another point on which we see eye to eye. The QOL is going to be $hit for the first few years, but everybody has to go through it at one point or another.

Like I said before, it sure as heck beats being a bagsmasher.... and all you who have done that work for any amount of time will probably agree with that.



It probably stems from the fact that except for a VERY small minority of you non-military, civilian only regional pilots or regional wannabes, the regionals are where you are going to start and finish your airline career. The negativity also stems from the fact that wages and working conditioins at the regionals will never substantially improve over what they are now. That's because of all the wannabe's that think that THEY will be the lucky one in a million civilian regional pilot to get a job at a major. Regional manager's have no incentive to improve wages or working conditions when people are lined up around the corner wanting a job at a regional airline. Face facts, if you currently work for or are thinking about getting a job at a regional, that's where you are going to retire from.

rickair7777 06-27-2006 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by cynical
It probably stems from the fact that except for a VERY small minority of you non-military, civilian only regional pilots or regional wannabes, the regionals are where you are going to start and finish your airline career. The negativity also stems from the fact that wages and working conditioins at the regionals will never substantially improve over what they are now. That's because of all the wannabe's that think that THEY will be the lucky one in a million civilian regional pilot to get a job at a major. Regional manager's have no incentive to improve wages or working conditions when people are lined up around the corner wanting a job at a regional airline. Face facts, if you currently work for or are thinking about getting a job at a regional, that's where you are going to retire from.

That is most likely correct...if you think you are going to get a job at a major you need to look at yourself and look at all of your fellow regional pilots / CFIs...is there anything at all about you that stands out? Are you more personable, smarter, better educated, in better physical shape? Do you have a masters? How about academic honors? Are you active in your community? What do you do on your days off, play video games? Some people do triathlons or volunteer work in diasaster areas...

Majors have SO many applicants that mediocrity is almost a sure-fire disqualifier. One of my hard spots with PFT is that it opens the door for mediocre people with money (or the willingness to incur debt) to get into this profession. Old-school small airport CFIs usually have to be pretty dynamic individuals to thrive in that environment.

Browntail 06-27-2006 09:16 AM

So where is the regional industry heading? You will not doubt see regional pilots defending their decision to get into regional flying by saying that they never really wanted to fly for a major and that $200K-$300K a year to fly a plane is rediculous and that they are perfectly happy making $80K for the rest of their lives with a self-funded retirement.

Fly4hire 06-27-2006 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by surreal1221
Don't worry CL65. Those words are not coming from those who are in your position, much less even with 500 hours of where you are. Hell, I understand it's going to take work to get to the money. It's been like that for years, and nothing is going to change within the next 5 years.

Just dust your shoulders off, and best of luck.

Any idea how much of this hiring is for new aircraft from NWA? Was this a previous number or recently ramped up? I had a PCL JS'er the other day down to MCO who said they were getting CRJ-700's.

OTOH I have very good contacts within NWA managment and MEC who say no choice has been made yet regarding 76 seaters for PCL,XJ or Compass, or 77+ for the mainline...

CL65driver 06-27-2006 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by cynical
So where is the regional industry heading? You will not doubt see regional pilots defending their decision to get into regional flying by saying that they never really wanted to fly for a major and that $200K-$300K a year to fly a plane is rediculous and that they are perfectly happy making $80K for the rest of their lives with a self-funded retirement.

Well, there's no way in hell I'm going to trust an airline with my retirement. There's a reason why a lot of us started IRAs when we were young, and contribute to them quite often. When I plan on retiring, I'm not counting on Social Security or some dimwit at an airline for my retirement. But then again, complaining is the typical pilot solution to every problem. Doesn't seem like anyone wants to be proactive and take matters into their own hands anymore. Shall I wipe your butt for you too, Captain?

But all BSing aside, and back to the original topic....

Is there anyone out there who interviewed at Pinnacle and is going to class on Aug. 7th? If so, I would just like to extend out a friendly hand, and maybe go grab a few drinks or something before class.

.... and just to keep this on topic, please only post if you have something meaningful to contribute to this subject. If you want to flame the regionals, go right ahead with your own thread. But don't hijack this one... some of us really do come on here looking to make friends, and not just whine.


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