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jdr7225 06-27-2006 03:40 PM

PSA Info.
 
I've been researching PSA recently, thinking about sending them a resume. From what I have found they seem like a great company. Does anyone know if CLT is a jr. or sr. crew base? Any other info about the company would be great as well. Thanks.

Browntail 06-27-2006 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by jdr7225
I've been researching PSA recently, thinking about sending them a resume. From what I have found they seem like a great company. Does anyone know if CLT is a jr. or sr. crew base? Any other info about the company would be great as well. Thanks.


Great company and regional airline should never be lumped together. It's amazing what newbies think of regional airlines. Just read any interview gouge board and listen to the interviewees spew off how great the company is that interviewed them. When all along, they are surrounded by people that actually work there and read online from acutal employees, what a crappy place to work it actually is. Thank god for rose colored glasses! They'll learn soon enough.

clearedtoland 06-27-2006 03:51 PM

JDR:
PSA is a good company but it is all relative when you compare all the regionals. It is not the worst but not the best either. Most everyone I ran into there ****ed and moaned about the company. I was hired in January but have since quit. I knew the pay was bad going in but found out that the QOL at a regional along with the bad pay just was not for me. The training is, in my opinion, very good. (Better than ExpressJet as far as I was concerned.) I only flew for about 2 months, but in that time I only ran into one Captain who was a jerk. All the rest were very nice and helpful. If you are hired there, most likely you will be based in Dayton at first. My class all went to CLT even though there were people in DAY wanting CLT. My understanding is is that CLT will eventually base everyone...but plans and rumors change daily at the regionals as you will see. Hope that helps. If you want more, let me know. CTL

jdr7225 06-27-2006 03:54 PM

Not exactly what I was asking for. Anyone with real advice?

jdr7225 06-27-2006 03:56 PM

That last one was for cynical. Thanks clearedtoland for the info.

Spectre364 06-27-2006 04:10 PM

Psa
 

Originally Posted by cynical
Great company and regional airline should never be lumped together. It's amazing what newbies think of regional airlines. Just read any interview gouge board and listen to the interviewees spew off how great the company is that interviewed them. When all along, they are surrounded by people that actually work there and read online from acutal employees, what a crappy place to work it actually is. Thank god for rose colored glasses! They'll learn soon enough.

JDR,

You will have to excuse Cynical :rolleyes: , he is having a bad hair day I guess since he had nothing to add but a high pitched whine. PSA has great people and seems to be setting itself up for success. Like any other regional you are most certainly not going to get rich there, they are going to work you hard, and you can end up on your butt, but that's a given. The interview process is straight forward and you can read all the details online. CLT is open as it was explained to me. I was hired very recently and am waiting to start ground school.
Good luck!

MikeB525 06-27-2006 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by clearedtoland
JDR:
PSA is a good company but it is all relative when you compare all the regionals. It is not the worst but not the best either. Most everyone I ran into there ****ed and moaned about the company. I was hired in January but have since quit. I knew the pay was bad going in but found out that the QOL at a regional along with the bad pay just was not for me. The training is, in my opinion, very good. (Better than ExpressJet as far as I was concerned.) I only flew for about 2 months, but in that time I only ran into one Captain who was a jerk. All the rest were very nice and helpful. If you are hired there, most likely you will be based in Dayton at first. My class all went to CLT even though there were people in DAY wanting CLT. My understanding is is that CLT will eventually base everyone...but plans and rumors change daily at the regionals as you will see. Hope that helps. If you want more, let me know. CTL

Who are you flying for now??

fosters 06-27-2006 07:31 PM

I was recently talking to a PSA crew about their schedules. I thought ours were bad - they have 19 hour, 8 leg/day 4-days (I was on an 18 hour 3-day 4 legs/day). Jesus...@*#$ that. You'd be better off going to a commuter like colgan so you can upgrade quicker. Why not? QOL would be the same.

clearedtoland 06-27-2006 11:51 PM

Im flying for myself. I gave up on the airline dream...which really was not a dream; just a goal that I achieved. It is a shame what the airlines have become for pilots. It used to be a profession that was looked up to...now it is just a job that pays around minimum wage when you really brake it down. (Last month I made 6 bucks an hour) Again, I knew the pay was crap going in and if I sound bitter, well, I am not. It is what it is. I quit a week ago and I dont miss it a bit. For those of you who are persuing the dream, go for it and good luck. It has to get better because it cant get much worse.

fosters 06-28-2006 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by clearedtoland
(Last month I made 6 bucks an hour) Again, I knew the pay was crap going in and if I sound bitter, well, I am not. It is what it is. I quit a week ago and I dont miss it a bit.

How do you figure you made $6/hr?

A serious question, did you finish your proby period or were you still on first year pay?

rickair7777 06-28-2006 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by fosters
How do you figure you made $6/hr?

A serious question, did you finish your proby period or were you still on first year pay?


$6/hr at a regional? Easy...

Count duty time, like any other profession would, and assume a one for three rig: Unless you fly more than 1/3 of your duty time that would be 6 bucks and change.

I would also count a reserve on guarantee as duty time...yeah, he may get to sit on his @ss at home, BUT he is realistically precluded from getting another job during his duty hours, so you have to count that as work hours (maybe not gruelling work hours :rolleyes: )

fosters 06-28-2006 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777
$6/hr at a regional? Easy...

Count duty time, like any other profession would, and assume a one for three rig: Unless you fly more than 1/3 of your duty time that would be 6 bucks and change

Who works 1/3 of their duty time? Sounds like a call to the scheduling commitee is needed...

We are contractually guaranteed 2:1 duty:flight pay, but I rarely see that kicking in. Maybe 1 day out of 30 or so. Even with the crappy us air schedules.

clearedtoland 06-28-2006 09:18 AM

I dont have the numbers in front of me anymore but I was on duty 175 hours last month. From the pay I recieved, it worked out to 6.10/hour roughly. That was after taxes so if you want to adjust it for that, i guess I made more. I did not count anytime I was away from base that was not duty time. If you count that, then I made much less...about 4 bucks an hour. I dont think that is genuine to count those hours however because either way, Id be sleeping and relaxing during those hours. The bottom line is is that the pay is less than 8 bucks an hour and that is, in my opinion, embarrasing considering the job. Heck, I made more than that 20 years ago as a peon.

jdr7225 06-28-2006 11:11 AM

I know working for the regionals won't yield the "Big Bucks" but I bet you I'll make more than my $1000 dollars a month. Anything more than the 12,000 grand I make now would help me at least pay my cell phone bill on time!

Browntail 06-28-2006 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by jdr7225
I know working for the regionals won't yield the "Big Bucks" but I bet you I'll make more than my $1000 dollars a month. Anything more than the 12,000 grand I make now would help me at least pay my cell phone bill on time!



Dude, you need to find another field of work if you can't even pay a cell phone bill on time. Pathetic. But, you will be flying a jet, so it's ok.

Brav989 06-28-2006 11:46 AM

Based on the minimum wage in my state, you would make 1322.53/month flipping burgers full time.

Edit: Don't mean this as an insult to anybody

Are you working as a CFI right now?

fosters 06-28-2006 12:57 PM

$22k first year at my company
$40k second year with the lines that I'm getting now

All not including per diem, just base pay.

Life is what you make of it; when my father was my age he was working on a farm picking cotton. Now he makes $150k writing contracts and drives a company Mercedes. Life is what you make of it, live below your means and you'll be ok.

And regarding the reserve times sitting at home, here we have what's called "long call" reserve which is a lineholder position. It affords approximately a 48 hour callout, which allows for somewhat of a normal life on your "on" days.

Flyby1206 06-28-2006 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by jdr7225
I know working for the regionals won't yield the "Big Bucks" but I bet you I'll make more than my $1000 dollars a month. Anything more than the 12,000 grand I make now would help me at least pay my cell phone bill on time!


I used to instruct at ATP like you and that 1000/mo was nice! Your apt and bills are all paid for and that 1000 bucks is just spending cash. I spend 700/mo for an apt and about 100-150/mo for elec, cable, internet. That would be almost 2 grand a month, which is more than most 1st yr RJ FOs make.

C175 06-28-2006 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by jdr7225
Not exactly what I was asking for. Anyone with real advice?

Go to shupubliqua

jdr7225 06-28-2006 04:59 PM

I was just joking about not being able to pay the cell phone bill on time, lol. But the 20 something grand the first year at a regional will be a step in the right direction. After the probation year, it will get better, and hopefully will continue to get better (I know rose colored glasses.) And yes, I am a flight instructor. But hopefully by the end of the summer I will be getting the call for an interview.


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