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FSUpilot 01-25-2010 07:19 PM

Colgan Hiring
 
well just as I was about to post a question the last mess of a thread was closed.

What kind of time have the latest interviewees been getting from time of invite to the actual interview?

Interview in LGA as before?

Positive spaced out there?

Thanks!

bradeku1008 01-25-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 751347)
well just as I was about to post a question the last mess of a thread was closed.

What kind of time have the latest interviewees been getting from time of invite to the actual interview?

Interview in LGA as before?

Positive spaced out there?

Thanks!

Times were 1000 up to 2500+

Interviews are still at LGA (Flight Safety)

Yes its positive space

winglets 01-25-2010 07:57 PM

For those thinking about working at Colgan, you should know your first year you will make $18,000 and probably $25,000 for your second year. This is for flying a 70 seat airplane.

Horizon pays near $30,000 for the first year and over $40,000 for the second year. Horizon pilots also have a total compensation package $5,000-10,000 more per year than Colgan pilots, this is on top of the Horizon pay I mentioned above. This is for flying the same aircraft.

The Colgan pilots are in contract negotiations right now and you will be doing them a huge favor, in obtaining a good contract, by not accepting a job there, so management has nothing else to do than raise their pay.

Ignore those that tell you to ignore what I am saying. They either think that there is nothing we can do to change this industry, that $18,000 a year isn't wrong to pay a pilot to fly a 70-seater in EWR, or have some weird feeling to defend a company that pays poverty pay to their FO's. Why some pilots are on here praising you for choosing to work for Colgan for those wages is beyond me.

A pilot should never be compensated so poorly, that he/she is eligible for food stamps and multiple other government assistant programs.

yamahas3 01-25-2010 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by winglets (Post 751377)
For those thinking about working at Colgan, you should know your first year you will make $18,000 and probably $25,000 for your second year. This is for flying a 70 seat airplane.

Horizon pays near $30,000 for the first year and over $40,000 for the second year. Horizon pilots also have a total compensation package $5,000-10,000 more per year than Colgan pilots, this is on top of the Horizon pay I mentioned above. This is for flying the same aircraft.

The Colgan pilots are in contract negotiations right now and you will be doing them a huge favor, in obtaining a good contract, by not accepting a job there, so management has nothing else to do than raise their pay.

Ignore those that tell you to ignore what I am saying. They either think that there is nothing we can do to change this industry, that $18,000 a year isn't wrong to pay a pilot to fly a 70-seater in EWR, or have some weird feeling to defend a company that pays poverty pay to their FO's. Why some pilots are on here praising you for choosing to work for Colgan for those wages is beyond me.

A pilot should never be compensated so poorly, that he/she is eligible for food stamps and multiple other government assistant programs.

This man speaks the truth. You will be treated horrible and paid even worse.

You will hate this job.

FSUpilot 01-25-2010 08:08 PM

how bout we just keep this thread on topic and just offer up relevant info... the last thread was closed because we got into these shennanigans before... same old story repeated 500 times.

ask a question get an answer..

I understand where winglets is coming from though. lets just leave it at that to save this one.

Milk Man 01-25-2010 08:42 PM

WINGLETS!!!! Stop changing the thread! Stay on topic, you have people who are on here trying to find out actual info based on the thread topic.

usmc-sgt 01-25-2010 08:45 PM

As a simple mod note:

Try to keep this one on topic. The last one was closed and this one is headed in that direction.

What winglets has mentioned is factual and for those that check out this thread his post will be one of the first ones seen. There is no reason to beat a dead horse.

Whether or not anyone likes it or hates it people will be applying and we are all here to help out. If a question is asked and you know the answer then help out and give up the info.

Lets keep this one alive and keep APC on task with providing information to those who seek it.

Winglets, you have said your piece in an accurate and concise manner, there is no reason to repeat it in this thread.

flycrj200 01-26-2010 05:05 AM

Questions you need to get answered before you work for any airline:
1- Can you work for this particular airline for 5 + years and be happy?
2- What is guarantee during and after reserve?
3- Where are you going to be based?
4- Do you have to commute and spend $300 for a crash pad?
5- How much is per diem pay?
6- What are the reserve rules if any?
7- Does the company have cancellation pay?
8- Does the company pay block or better?
9- What are the health benefits?
10- Are the work rules at par with the rest of the industry?
11- Does the company have an excellent training program?
12- How safe is the operation?
13- What is the financial strength of the company?
14- Is your certificate and safety will ever be compromised?
15- What is the sick or Fatigue policy?
16- Vacation time?
17- Company 401K match?

Do not chase a quick upgrade; it will never happen in this time and age. Upgrade time changes so quickly. Look at Mesa, upgrade time used to be less than 10 month.

Good Luck

UCLAbruins 01-26-2010 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by winglets (Post 751377)
For those thinking about working at Colgan, you should know your first year you will make $18,000 and probably $25,000 for your second year. This is for flying a 70 seat airplane.

Horizon pays near $30,000 for the first year and over $40,000 for the second year. Horizon pilots also have a total compensation package $5,000-10,000 more per year than Colgan pilots, this is on top of the Horizon pay I mentioned above. This is for flying the same aircraft.

The Colgan pilots are in contract negotiations right now and you will be doing them a huge favor, in obtaining a good contract, by not accepting a job there, so management has nothing else to do than raise their pay.

Ignore those that tell you to ignore what I am saying. They either think that there is nothing we can do to change this industry, that $18,000 a year isn't wrong to pay a pilot to fly a 70-seater in EWR, or have some weird feeling to defend a company that pays poverty pay to their FO's. Why some pilots are on here praising you for choosing to work for Colgan for those wages is beyond me.

A pilot should never be compensated so poorly, that he/she is eligible for food stamps and multiple other government assistant programs.

OK OK, most of us agree with you, but I think you've made your point....

what did Colgan do (that most regionals haven't done) to get you all worked up?? and before you write a speech, think of Mesa, Trans states, Chautauqua, Commut Air, etc

saab2000 01-26-2010 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by flycrj200 (Post 751506)
Questions you need to get answered before you work for any airline:
1- Can you work for this particular airline for 5 + years and be happy?
2- What is guarantee during and after reserve?
3- Where are you going to be based?
4- Do you have to commute and spend $300 for a crash pad?
5- How much is per diem pay?
6- What are the reserve rules if any?
7- Does the company have cancellation pay?
8- Does the company pay block or better?
9- What are the health benefits?
10- Are the work rules at par with the rest of the industry?
11- Does the company have an excellent training program?
12- How safe is the operation?
13- What is the financial strength of the company?
14- Is your certificate and safety will ever be compromised?
15- What is the sick or Fatigue policy?
16- Vacation time?
17- Company 401K match?

Do not chase a quick upgrade; it will never happen in this time and age. Upgrade time changes so quickly. Look at Mesa, upgrade time used to be less than 10 month.

Good Luck

This is very wise advice and these points are very valid. I do not work at Colgan and have no opinion on Colgan. But not all airline jobs are equal. Not even close.

All this information is out there and anyone would be wise to run a comparison chart on this stuff.

These are not, and should not be, the only factors when choosing a job. But they are not unimportant by a long shot. Compound interest is HUGE and small things early in your career may have a giant impact later on.

Just run the numbers. Maybe Colgan is the best place for someone based on their own situation - geographic location, contacts, etc. Who knows? But do your homework.


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