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ugflyer 01-27-2010 03:19 PM

Armageddon!
 
Driving to work this morning, the craziest thought popped in my head and I kicked myself for even letting it creep into my head. What if the regionals got so big that even they started contracting out their work to "sub-regionals"? This may sound crazy, but it has happened in many other industries and it could very well happen to ours. Anyone share this fear?

iPilot 01-27-2010 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by ugflyer (Post 752647)
Driving to work this morning, the craziest thought popped in my head and I kicked myself for even letting it creep into my head. What if the regionals got so big that even they started contracting out their work to "sub-regionals"? This may sound crazy, but it has happened in many other industries and it could very well happen to ours. Anyone share this fear?

There's been grumblings that Horizon might do that with SkyWest in the markets they can't service with the Q400.

That's why scope, not pay, is by far the most important section in every unions contract.

3XLoser 01-27-2010 03:31 PM

Funny that you should bring this up. I just heard on NPR, maybe on Monday (?) that Wal-mart was outsourcing some Positions at Sam's Club. How can you get lower than minimum wage and no benefits?

ComairFO 01-27-2010 03:42 PM

I just threw up in my mouth.......

jdalbrec 01-27-2010 03:49 PM

yikes, that is a scary thought. hopefully all of the retirees to come will slow that possibility, but it might be an inevitable eventuality. i sure hope not!

Utah 01-27-2010 04:02 PM

Haven't they already done that. TSA flying to Gojets. Mesa with Freedom.

CTPILOT 01-27-2010 04:04 PM

I know Go! contracted out Mokule (I think) as Go! Express

ExperimentalAB 01-27-2010 06:02 PM

For a while there, it was RAH paying SkyWest for Midwest Connect...what is this world coming to?!

indapit 01-27-2010 06:09 PM

Funny thought, however, if the mainline wanted someone cheaper, why pay the middle man, just go to the source and not pay the middle man the profit

Ted Striker 01-27-2010 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by 3XLoser (Post 752654)
Funny that you should bring this up. I just heard on NPR, maybe on Monday (?) that Wal-mart was outsourcing some Positions at Sam's Club. How can you get lower than minimum wage and no benefits?

Sams club is outsourcing there workers. I heard the same thing. They are replacing their food tasting servers with outsourced labor..... and if it is armageddon, then bruce willis will save us. ;)

ASAnotASAP 01-27-2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by ugflyer (Post 752647)
Driving to work this morning, the craziest thought popped in my head and I kicked myself for even letting it creep into my head. What if the regionals got so big that even they started contracting out their work to "sub-regionals"? This may sound crazy, but it has happened in many other industries and it could very well happen to ours. Anyone share this fear?

Wow, what are you smoking? ALPA will never allow that.

bigfatdaddy 01-27-2010 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 752677)
Haven't they already done that. TSA flying to Gojets. Mesa with Freedom.

You mean United flying to both of those UNMENTIONABLE companies!:(

waflyboy 01-27-2010 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ted Striker (Post 752752)
Sams club is outsourcing there workers. I heard the same thing. They are replacing their food tasting servers with outsourced labor.....

Hasn't Costco been doing this for years?

Aloha1999 01-27-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP (Post 752776)
Wow, what are you smoking? ALPA will never allow that.

At least not until they find a way to raise the retirement age to 70.

AirWillie 01-27-2010 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by ugflyer (Post 752647)
Driving to work this morning, the craziest thought popped in my head and I kicked myself for even letting it creep into my head. What if the regionals got so big that even they started contracting out their work to "sub-regionals"? This may sound crazy, but it has happened in many other industries and it could very well happen to ours. Anyone share this fear?

I don't see it happening. Plus I believe major scope is going to be tightened in the next contracts.

FlyJSH 01-28-2010 12:58 AM

Colgan has already put into place a scope clause prohibiting the use of aircraft with more than 5 pax seats.

Okay, I kid, I kid :)


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