Changes to Pinnacle Pass Policy for Parents
 

Look like a step in a right direction (well, depening on the destination;)
Parents of Pinnacle employees will now will fly @ the ID-95 rate instead of the ZED Highs.
Thanks for improving this benefit for our parents!
Now if the employees can have more than 3 Int'l Travel Days.:)
Anyone heard anything about the possibility of more Int'l Travel Days??? (after all, other airline pilots can get a seat on DL metal overseas all they want)

Didn't you guys also at the same time just lose agreements with like 20 carriers? A buddy of mine was just complaining to me that he is having to redo his entire summer travel plans because of it.

I also understand it that parents can no longer Zed on ANY other carrier (previously could on dozens upon dozens)... now its just ID-95 on Delta?


Great improvement....

Not sure where you got that info but it's not correct. Parents still can interline on other carriers. AFAIK, no interline agreements have changed for parents and there are 'dozens and dozens' of carriers on which they are eligible.
When the integrated pass policy was announced, DL left alone all of our interline agreements with the other carriers. I have not heard anything about losing the interline agreements for parents on other carriers.
Additionally, parents are supposed to have the capability to purchase interline tickets at all DL ticket counters within the next few weeks. Hope this clears it up..

nice alliteration

lol..good catch! :)

No matter what flower gets put on the pile it's still just a lump of poo.

Terrible Pass Travel

Worst Hotels any airline has in the country

Almost the worst pay

"Simply the biggest POS"

Pretty much about sums it up.

I like the memo about unplanned absences. "Mental Health days" and "sickations". Maybe certain people would pull their head outta the sand they might think about this.
When someone needs a day off in the future, does the company work with them? Nope. Everyone I know has given up trying to work with the company. It's pointless. If you need the day off you just call in sick. Simple as that. Its sad but true.

So, in the unfortunate event right before a trip a loved one dies, someone close to me commits suicide, I have a car wreck, or I catch my wife cheating on me before leaving for a trip....sorry guys--I'm in the cockpit shooting that Cat II down to mins...wonder if he would want to jumpseat on a night Cat II with me if I caught my wife cheating on me less than 10 hours prior to departure...

The MEC, like the company, seems to be using the time method. Overtime hopefully we will forget all the shortcomings. Things are not improving....hotels, pass travel, extensions/junior mans, contract, oh and my favorite, communication. While the union has been better it's still vague...

Why can't we get the automatic drop /swap? Even IF the pilots offered to pay for it, why doesn't the union push for it? Qualtiy of life would improve. I have yet to be able to drop anything here---I love the standard response...unable due to staffing. Simply the best...................

I'm fairly certain the pilot group will continue to use their sick time however they want since everything is denied.

Since we probably won't see another ta for 2 years why don't we dig in and use what we have and fix the little stuff like the hotels and pass travel?

If you are unable to fly and uphold the FAA requirements for your medical issuance, call in sick. If given grief call a rep for your meeting. We have NOT had anyone have any discipline over the sick calls beyond a meeting to figure out what's wrong if you suddenly are sick multiple times in a short period. Anything the company threatens to do is only a threat. It's an easy grievance with FAA support for the first pilot who is pressured to fly sick or does not because the pilot is sick and the company disciplines.

Flapsfail- your union is working very hard to get this deal done. If you think this is supposed to be an overnight success story I remind you who you work for. I'm unsure where you are based but in MEM you are given updates at least once a week- more often if there is news. I just sent one off early this morning on my layover. Mark Feb 19 as a big day- we get to finally get in front of the NMB. If you look at management and union labor tactics you will find that mgmt is right on track with dividing the pilot group to try and accomplish their goals. The company feels you are already overpaid on 1999 rates, the pilots voted in majority that the TA did not meet the needs and expectations for a contract. Your union is working every day (including some late nights and weekends) to get a deal together. There is NO desire to make this take a day longer than needed.

Higney,
I do agree with you on that and I touched on that with my previous post. You and PH have been much better about getting info out.

PH is not on the MEC anymore. I am actually in his old position. In MEM it's TC, NL, and myself. The three of us are really trying to keep MEM informed and listen to what the pilots in MEM have to say.

well we had one fired a few years ago, but I think he was a bad apple anyways. Company even got the Feds involved. He called in sick X number of times in a year and the company thought it was fishy even with a dr note. Company went to the Feds on it. When you apply to renew your medical it has that spot for "doctor visits within last 3 years."
Well he left that blank so the feds got him for lying on a medical application and he got canned. Barney semantics again.

Been there, done that, got the slap in the face.

Since the failed TA it's the first time.

not worried about it...just being sarcastic...

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Hey, we share the worst hotels with colgan, its not only us!

What are we expecting from this meeting?

Same old thing, five years later...."After meeting with the company and the NMB over the last few days, there is little progress to report. We are scheduled to meet again in three months."

We are about to be put on ice again...I predict it will be at least 1-2yrs before we see the same s#&tty TA all over again.

I agree 100% with with that statement.

Higney I thank all of you for the long hours ya put in; But I will say this...
DO NOT LISTEN TO THE TO THE PILOTS IN MEMPHIS. They are the only one that voted in favor of that piece of crap TA that got sent to the pilot group.

I am listening to the pilots and fully understand that every day that goes by without a deal is less money in our pockets. That being said just signing a crap deal to live under for a minimum of 5 years is not how things work- thankfully the checks and balances of democracy showed that. I have no high expectations for the 19th, but we are fighting for a deal that compensates and treats pilots as professionals- not just a number that deleniates "senior" or "junior". The 19th is the first time since the TA was voted down that labor actually has a chance of leverage from a legal standpoint to get a deal done. Seniority is relative and a deal must cover all ranges of 1300 pilots- not just a small percentage.

Who ever said "worst hotels, worst pay pos place..." Hit the nail on the head!

One thing I don't understand tho, reserve FOs. You guys can organize a massive sick out, you have absolutely nothing to lose. You might be the ones who can save us of our misery... why not??