Colgan Sunshine Hearing
02-06-2010, 07:19 AM
#81
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My point is, what would you do if your flight director lied to you? Would you just follow it and hope it's a better pilot then you? Would you ignore it and go back to the basics? How often do you fly without it. Personally, I like to fly without it sometimes so I can remember how to fly an airplane without training wheels.
02-06-2010, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Don't most modern transport-category jets have FDs...so most pilots would have relied on them from their first 121 gig?
How many of us learned to fly at our first 121 gig? I don't mean to start the usual freight dogs or instructors are better pilots but we learned to fly before using a flight director.
02-06-2010, 07:41 AM
#83
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
How many of us learned to fly at our first 121 gig? I don't mean to start the usual freight dogs or instructors are better pilots but we learned to fly before using a flight director.
Maybe he let the flight director lead him into the stall because he relied on it through all his previous flights from his first 121 gig!
Now, if you're talking about how CA Renslow had flown with a flight director from 250 hours on, then I can see your point.
02-06-2010, 07:48 AM
#84
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
But that's not what you said. Not to split hairs, but you wrote:
All current airliners have flight directors and the vast majority in the last 2 decades have as well, so nearly 100% of airline pilots rely on FDs from their first 121 job. This makes the point you were trying to make essentially moot.
Now, if you're talking about how CA Renslow had flown with a flight director from 250 hours on, then I can see your point.
All current airliners have flight directors and the vast majority in the last 2 decades have as well, so nearly 100% of airline pilots rely on FDs from their first 121 job. This makes the point you were trying to make essentially moot.
Now, if you're talking about how CA Renslow had flown with a flight director from 250 hours on, then I can see your point.
Exactly! I wrote that assuming it was common knowledge he went to Gulfstream as a newly minted Commercial pilot. That is the point I was trying to make. The man (rest in peace) learned to fly using a flight director. Most of us show up at our first 121 job having learned to fly without it.
The first time I used a flight director, I didn't quite trust it at first. Especially when it appeared to do something weird like jump into a turn before I even saw the Loc come alive.
02-06-2010, 09:38 AM
#85
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
ALPA's response to the Sunshine Brief:
ALPA News Release
Translation of Capt Prater's double-speak:
"We disagree with the NTSB because it makes ALPA look bad."
My perspective:
Briefing the public and government that under-qualified and below-average pilots are members of ALPA makes ALPA look bad.
ALPA News Release
Translation of Capt Prater's double-speak:
"We disagree with the NTSB because it makes ALPA look bad."
My perspective:
Briefing the public and government that under-qualified and below-average pilots are members of ALPA makes ALPA look bad.
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