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splat 03-09-2010 03:36 AM

Ads that run on Airline Pilot Central
 
Is this for the benefit of airline management? This is a board for pilots right?


This was a running add in the margin above.

"In today’s economy, a company cannot afford to be down because of a labor dispute. Safeguard your business by hiring Modern Industrial Services, Inc. . . . . . "

PSACFI 03-09-2010 05:25 AM

I think in order to keep this site free they need to run ads. Unfortunately management has all the money so you usually see their ads or ads for ATP flight school. Makes me sick and makes me wonder why ATP bothers to advertise here. If anybody starts a thread that says, "Hey guys is ATP flight school a good choice?" they are quickly ridiculed for a poor decision.

willi075 03-09-2010 05:58 AM

Firefox + adblock plus is your friend.

Photon 03-09-2010 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by willi075 (Post 775805)
Firefox + adblock plus is your friend.

qft !


plus some words to make it more than 10 letters

rickair7777 03-09-2010 06:22 AM

Many of the ads on APC are generated by an automated system which attempts to match ads to the context of the discussion in a thread. Doesn't always work well on specialized-topic forums.

If you talk about mesa bankruptcy, you get ads for personal bankruptcy attorneys.

If you talk about airline labor issues, you get ads for labor-lawyers.

I've also seen some ads for Honda Pilots :rolleyes:

toomanyrjs 03-09-2010 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 775822)
Many of the ads on APC are generated by an automated system which attempts to match ads to the context of the discussion in a thread. Doesn't always work well on specialized-topic forums.

If you talk about mesa bankruptcy, you get ads for personal bankruptcy attorneys.

If you talk about airline labor issues, you get ads for labor-lawyers.

I've also seen some ads for Honda Pilots :rolleyes:

What in the world did I say to get an ad for eating disorder counseling?:confused:

ratsnrip 03-09-2010 06:31 AM

Ads vs Adblock
 

Originally Posted by willi075 (Post 775805)
Firefox + adblock plus is your friend.

Websites use bandwidth.
Surfing utilizes the bandwidth
Bandwidth costs money
Ad space provides the money to pay for bandwidth
Adblock denies the website the ability to earn the ad money

Not saying it is right or wrong. But using adblock is kinda like bringing your sack lunch into a restaurant and sitting down at their table.

willi075 03-09-2010 06:59 AM

so are you saying I should quit skipping commercials on my DVR as well? or throwing out the ad section of the Sunday paper?

There's other ways of presenting ads... like how gmail does it. I frequently click on those ads because they're smart, snarky, or just flat out make me want to see more. None of this epilepsy-inducing flashing BS.

If it's bright, flashy, prone to inducing medical conditions, and hogging the resources of my computer, I'm blocking it.

Riddle me this... if I block all the bright, flashy, resource-hogging, bandwidth-grabbing ads, am I not saving the website money by saving the bandwidth?

willi075 03-09-2010 07:06 AM

For the record, I'm not above pay subscription pilot forums (I'm certainly not speaking about FI, I never paid for that). In fact, I kind of like Pay Pilot Websites... keeps out the riff-raff.

Aloha 03-09-2010 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by willi075 (Post 775866)
For the record, I'm not above pay subscription pilot forums (I'm certainly not speaking about FI, I never paid for that). In fact, I kind of like Pay Pilot Websites... keeps out the riff-raff.

Willi,
For the new guy, what are some of the better pay pilot websites out there?
Thanks in advance,
Aloha

Twin Wasp 03-09-2010 07:32 AM

I know some of the folks here are also on ProPilot World.

joethepilot 03-09-2010 07:43 AM

Why Ad Blocking is devastating to the sites you love

HSLD 03-09-2010 09:08 AM

Quick APC History lesson

From the APC forum inception in 2005, we were committed to offering a FREE venue for pilots. The two founders paid out-of-pocket for the platform for several years and avoided any type of advertising.

Running ads on the forum was a tough decision, although with the explosive growth of APC in 2005-2006 it became apparent that we couldn't keep up with bandwidth costs by writing personal checks.

In 2007 the forum achieved corporate sponsorship when APC was acquired by Internet Brands. The resources that IB brought were far beyond what John and I could provide on our own to the community, and frankly, the relationship has made APC a much much better online forum.

One change implemented in 2007 was the placement of ads on the forum. This allowed a return for IB while allowing the forum to remain a free resource to pilots. Occasionally we'll see an ad that doesn't seem to fit the content, however IB is extremely responsive to this community when an inappropriate ad is displayed on the forum.

In short, advertising allows this forum to remain a free resource. Our realationship with Internet Brands is fantastic - they get an ROI and we maintain creative input and operation of the forum. This forum is financially backed by Internet Brands, but is still run for pilots - by pilots.

It's a win win.

HSLD 03-09-2010 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 775883)


Good read, thanks for posting!

SuperPilotJesse 03-09-2010 09:20 AM

Not saying it's right or wrong... just pointing out what I see as logic 101 fail.

Originally Posted by willi075 (Post 775859)
so are you saying I should quit skipping commercials on my DVR as well? or throwing out the ad section of the Sunday paper?

There is a difference there... you pay cable and paper therefore paying for the advertisements even if you don't watch them or throw them out.

Here there is no revenue generated unless you click...


Riddle me this... if I block all the bright, flashy, resource-hogging, bandwidth-grabbing ads, am I not saving the website money by saving the bandwidth?
That's like saying well I saved you money buy taking just a snickers bar (small piece of BW) When I could have taken Nachos and a pizza(Large part of bandwith)

Taking BW, even if it just a small part that you were able to reduce by a nominal amount, is still taking BW.

SuperPilotJesse 03-09-2010 09:21 AM

I would say block ads on random sites you don't really care about. But if there is a website that you rely on for news and or just ridiculous rumors for comic relief then leave the adblock off.

ratsnrip 03-09-2010 12:05 PM

HSLD - confirm?
 

Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 775936)
Good read, thanks for posting!

The revenue is generated simply by having the ads appear on our computer screen (no adblock utilized)?

OR

The revenue is generated only if we click on an ad?

Just trying to get a clear idea on the subject from your end.

Photon 03-09-2010 01:11 PM

Well the ads are loaded to the computer, no matter if the adblock removes them from your sight or not. (At least in adblock plus' instance I'm pretty sure).

Adblock removes the links and pictures from your sight, but they are still loaded with the website, so the "we lose money" argument is only valid if the user was an avid ad-clicker before he got the blocker.

Now I've never actually hit a banner ad in my entire life, that I can remember, so even if they were there, I would've ignored them.

The only thing adblock does for me, is remove annoying advertisement that I would not have clicked even if I saw them

Gofish 03-09-2010 02:30 PM

KITDARBY.COM - About Us ?

I mean come on. Really?

ThrustMonkey 03-09-2010 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 775826)
What in the world did I say to get an ad for eating disorder counseling?:confused:

You must have, in one of your posts, used the term "FA", flight attendant" or "aisle donkey"

ratsnrip 03-09-2010 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Photon (Post 776121)
Well the ads are loaded to the computer, no matter if the adblock removes them from your sight or not. (At least in adblock plus' instance I'm pretty sure).

Adblock removes the links and pictures from your sight, but they are still loaded with the website, so the "we lose money" argument is only valid if the user was an avid ad-clicker before he got the blocker.

Now I've never actually hit a banner ad in my entire life, that I can remember, so even if they were there, I would've ignored them.

The only thing adblock does for me, is remove annoying advertisement that I would not have clicked even if I saw them

If the article quoted above is accurate, then you are wrong. That was why I questioned HSLD. According to that article, if you run adblocker and the ad is blocked from you seeing it in the margins, it doesn't generate revenue. It has nothing to do with clicking the ad itself.

I know that it tracks things you look at outside this site. Because the day I spent searching Toyota/Recall/Local Dealers the next time I came on this site - it knew and the ads here reflected those earlier searches. It got me curious so I have been trying to find out more information regarding web advertising.

TonyC 03-09-2010 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gofish (Post 776172)

KITDARBY.COM - About Us ?

I mean come on. Really?



I've been clicking on those just to make sure Kit gets to contribute. :D





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Gofish 03-09-2010 04:28 PM

LOL. Awesome.

SuperPilotJesse 03-12-2010 09:29 AM

Why Ad Blocking is devastating to the sites you love


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