Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 777818)

The growth myth.

This will be fun to watch.

I doubt any of us will be called back due to growth, but more than likely - after the company is able to rightsize with the 10-12% reduction in force as people leave later this year for the likes of Delta and AirTran (who will be running new hire classes coming late spring / early summer) - any attrition beyond the 10-12% will open up the recall window. Combine the attrition with increasingly block hours on the Delta side through the rest of this year (YOY figures - no information as far as United experiment), then perhaps by 2011 some of the 9/1 furloughees may be in an INDOC class. It'll most likely be spring of 2012 before ALL of us are back to ASA, that is if any of us want to come back after this beat down by our own pilot group.

Spring 2012, right before retirements begin again. . .hmmm. . .

I know I've enjoyed my year away, making real money and not having to deal with the mockery that is a regional airline. I must say, it is quite entertaining being on the outside looking in again.

At least we'll be in section 6 negotiations when we come back. . .

Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 777818)

The growth myth.

This will be fun to watch.

I doubt any of us will be called back due to growth, but more than likely - after the company is able to rightsize with the 10-12% reduction in force as people leave later this year for the likes of Delta and AirTran (who will be running new hire classes coming late spring / early summer) - any attrition beyond the 10-12% will open up the recall window. Combine the attrition with increasingly block hours on the Delta side through the rest of this year (YOY figures - no information as far as United experiment), then perhaps by 2011 some of the 9/1 furloughees may be in an INDOC class. It'll most likely be spring of 2012 before ALL of us are back to ASA, that is if any of us want to come back after this beat down by our own pilot group.

Spring 2012, right before retirements begin again. . .hmmm. . .

I know I've enjoyed my year away, making real money and not having to deal with the mockery that is a regional airline. I must say, it is quite entertaining being on the outside looking in again.

At least we'll be in section 6 negotiations when we come back. . .

Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 778155)

Let me know when you come back so I can give you my name. Then you can use PBS to put me on the list of captains to avoid flying with. Oh yeah, I want my $2 back that I donated for your Cobra.

Originally Posted by PCTechPilot (Post 777868)

What makes you think Delta or AirTran will be hiring this year?

Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 777134)

Disagree. …….. PBS doesn’t change the pairing; just assist in building a more efficient line. So if you can hold 18.75+ hour 4 days (75 hour guarantee) then you only have to work 4 (if you can hold higher paying 4 days then your pay will increase as such) and depending on your bidding position you can construct the exact month you’d like. You can even mix 1, 2, 3 & 4 day pairings to build 1-6 day work blocks.

As for the rest. Until this month I was never a guaranteed line holder. I was always in the “composite” range and as long as I stayed 50% or better in that range I received a full line (4 -4 day trips) with an average of 14-15 days off and pay averaging around 85 hrs/month. If I dropped below the 50% margin as a composite lineholder my month greatly improved which is interesting seeing that my bidding position deteriorated. What happened? Well as a composite PBS lineholder I was given an incomplete line meaning I only received 2 – 4 day pairings. In-order for my credit to be brought up to min guarantee they added reserve days (@3.75 hrs per) to my schedule. During the transition period between when my award was presented by PBS and when the company finalized it I contacted my crew scheduler and requested the days I wanted to sit reserve. Since I was super senior among all the reserved, I had my pick or days. So I chose weekends off and only sat reserve on days that we had the max # of reserves behind me in order to guarantee I wouldn’t be called. Plus add to it that all composited line holders get paid all their rigs whether you break guarantee or not and you can see how my month improved. In the end, the months I received an incomplete composite line I ended up getting paid around 85 hours with more than 16 days off ().

What’s also nice about being super senior in your bucket with reserve transparency is that I could place myself as first call in-order to cherry pick the open time trips. If crew support called me with a trip I would fist look at it and if I didn’t like what I saw, I would advice crew support to passed it on to one of the more Jr reserve pilots in my bucket. Since I am voluntarily “first call” they can’t force me into the trip unless I was the only pilot left. But at least as a composite lineholder, if I had to work the trip and I worked more than 3.75 for the day, I got paid the extra unlike a true reserve pilot.

Sometimes I wish I could bid for incomplete lines.

Note: Sorry for any errors, I pounded this out rather quick.

Originally Posted by colead3 (Post 778183)

He doesn't speak for all of us that are furloughed.. Im happy I can get called back to a company where the pilot group was nice/generous enough to donate to furloughees having COBRA. I honestly can't wait to come back and fly again, but am just happy I have somewhere to get called back to... There are some people out there that will not be able to find a flying job for years and years.. at least we were lucky enough to get hired somewhere that has growth potential, and some of the best employees I have worked with!

Originally Posted by samuraiguytn (Post 782277)

Same here. I actually got a job with ASA in the office till I get called back. And I truelly can't wait. Im not cubicle kind of person. But I tell you what, I have a lot more respect for the people that are here behind the scenes. They deal with a lot. And its a never ending cycle of what can be done or improved upon.

To the guy that likes it better on the out side. Stay there. Its where you belong. Your just going to be like the pilots I used to ask questions from on this industry where I got responces like" go mow lawns, you'll make more." I mowed lawns for a living, I didn't make that much. So people like you are just full of it.