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Husker402 08-12-2011 06:27 PM

Here's one for all you Eagle pilots. I am scheduled to interview in a few weeks. In my airlineapps information I left out 2 traffic tickets that I had forgotten about...one was 8 years ago the other was 16 years ago. At the time, I didn't have all the information since tickets drop off the state DMV after 5 years, so my "record" is clear right now. The local Police wouldn't give me any of my ticket information. Anyway, a friend at work was able to look up my "hidden" driving record and I was able to piece it together more accurately. I tried to call my recruiter, Laurie Clark, to explain the situation but got someone else on the phone yesterday...but still passed the information on to her. I have heard that once an interview is schedule you are screwed if the airline apps doesn't match what you really have. I have also been updating my flight totals as I fly more. Can anyone offer me any advice?

snippercr 08-12-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Husker402 (Post 1038075)
Here's one for all you Eagle pilots. I am scheduled to interview in a few weeks. In my airlineapps information I left out 2 traffic tickets that I had forgotten about...one was 8 years ago the other was 16 years ago. At the time, I didn't have all the information since tickets drop off the state DMV after 5 years, so my "record" is clear right now. The local Police wouldn't give me any of my ticket information. Anyway, a friend at work was able to look up my "hidden" driving record and I was able to piece it together more accurately. I tried to call my recruiter, Laurie Clark, to explain the situation but got someone else on the phone yesterday...but still passed the information on to her. I have heard that once an interview is schedule you are screwed if the airline apps doesn't match what you really have. I have also been updating my flight totals as I fly more. Can anyone offer me any advice?

Here's the thing. When you get the "2 day email", 2 days later they print out your application and put it in a folder that they start to build before, during, and after your interview. So if you add a ticket to airline apps after that, it will not be in your folder and you start running into a problem. Regardless, the most important thing to do is make sure they know about it. Looks like you started the ball rolling, but I would follow up. Maybe after the weekend. Give them a call to make sure that it was added and that the discrepancy is noted. Contrary to what some naysayers will say in a bit, you should be okay. As long as they know about it and it is accurate, that should be enough.

You are, however, living proof that what your record says and what some other record says, are not always the same. Just because a ticket was "Expunged" or something, doesn't mean it is gone for good. Good detective work.

ERJF15 08-12-2011 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 1038028)
...i wasn't sure what you were asking, that's why I put the confused face but we do not have any miami overnights! I think only gnv as of now!

MIA RON's are ok. It can be a little expensive to eat though. But the sights!

ERJF15 08-12-2011 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Husker402 (Post 1038075)
Here's one for all you Eagle pilots. I am scheduled to interview in a few weeks. In my airlineapps information I left out 2 traffic tickets that I had forgotten about...one was 8 years ago the other was 16 years ago. At the time, I didn't have all the information since tickets drop off the state DMV after 5 years, so my "record" is clear right now. The local Police wouldn't give me any of my ticket information. Anyway, a friend at work was able to look up my "hidden" driving record and I was able to piece it together more accurately. I tried to call my recruiter, Laurie Clark, to explain the situation but got someone else on the phone yesterday...but still passed the information on to her. I have heard that once an interview is schedule you are screwed if the airline apps doesn't match what you really have. I have also been updating my flight totals as I fly more. Can anyone offer me any advice?

You should be ok. Keep being up front.

stbloc 08-12-2011 07:53 PM

If its not on your certified driving record how would they be able to find it? When I inquired about a ticket that didn't show up on mine the state explained it could never be found if it dropped off. The state then when on and said the only way to find that ticket would be for someone to go to the records area and search through millions of carbon copy papers for something that may not even exist. The point is it would be impossible for anyone to find that old record unless they hired a team of people to scrub all the papers that dated back to the early 1900's. So if they wanted to find a ticket on you I guess they could look at when you turned 16 and then spend countless hours looking for something only to call you a liar and that's only if they were able to get some sort of authorization to perform such a search. what county would they start the search with?

Husker402 08-13-2011 06:14 AM

It's strange that the state DMV record is blank, the report from the Sheriff's Office only shows a "Fishing Ticket" when I was 17 and the local Police Department said they can't release any information. So, I tried to recall every ticket I could think of in the past. A friend at work who runs security clearances looked up my record for me and there were my tickets. I updated airline apps to reflect ones I had left off and updated a few dates on others. I did try to call my recruiter and will do so again on Monday to follow up. The point is, if it were not for my privileged friend, I wouldn't have been able to complete my driving portion of the airline apps accurately. I just want the information I put down to be accurate...hopefully Eagle doesn't kick me out in the first 5 minutes for bad paperwork like I've been reading on the gouges.

Swedish Blender 08-13-2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1038110)
If its not on your certified driving record how would they be able to find it? When I inquired about a ticket that didn't show up on mine the state explained it could never be found if it dropped off. The state then when on and said the only way to find that ticket would be for someone to go to the records area and search through millions of carbon copy papers for something that may not even exist. The point is it would be impossible for anyone to find that old record unless they hired a team of people to scrub all the papers that dated back to the early 1900's. So if they wanted to find a ticket on you I guess they could look at when you turned 16 and then spend countless hours looking for something only to call you a liar and that's only if they were able to get some sort of authorization to perform such a search. what county would they start the search with?

Since the TSA, DOJ snd FBI are all part of who does your background check, I would say they'd have no problem finding things that you or I could not.

YMMV

caseyjones617 08-14-2011 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 1037688)
It appears I lost some seniority this month. Losing something like 5-10 spots. Would this be from Executive guys moving over? Anyone else notice this or am I on crack?


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1037706)
I'm sure it's executive guys. They are bailing out of MIA and DFW fast.

I saw that mine went up 4 spots last time I checked a few days ago. I heard that they retired two ATRs. Most likely guys just bidding over.

csh405 08-14-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Husker402 (Post 1038075)
I am scheduled to interview in a few weeks.

Husker, how long did it take for you to get that email saying they are about to review your app?

Mason32 08-15-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1038110)
If its not on your certified driving record how would they be able to find it? When I inquired about a ticket that didn't show up on mine the state explained it could never be found if it dropped off. The state then when on and said the only way to find that ticket would be for someone to go to the records area and search through millions of carbon copy papers for something that may not even exist. The point is it would be impossible for anyone to find that old record unless they hired a team of people to scrub all the papers that dated back to the early 1900's. So if they wanted to find a ticket on you I guess they could look at when you turned 16 and then spend countless hours looking for something only to call you a liar and that's only if they were able to get some sort of authorization to perform such a search. what county would they start the search with?

Hope that story made you happy, and got you out of the Govt guys face... but I hate to break it to you... it ain't true.

There are two records... one available to the public, insurance companies, airlines, or anybody... and one for Govt use only (meaning law enforcement)

Yes, if you have a friend in LE, they can pull your entire record for you, but it will not be the certified copy you get through normal channels, and which AE will get when they request a copy. Stuff drops off the public record copies after 5 and 10 years depending on the state and the offense.

The Govt record copy will have everything... that doesn't mean you need to disclose ultra old stuff. If they ask you for a certified copy of your driving record, that is what you give them. If it's on there be prepared to discuss it... if not, next question.

There is a reason the stuff drops off, and it has to do with CORI laws and things of that nature. It is illegal to require you to provide more information than the state provides in their certified copy.

This interview is as much about following directions as it is about speaking well and making a good impression. They don't want people who are going to over-read into things, anymore than they want people who can't follow simple directions. Don't go digging yourself into a hole. Do what is asked of you.


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