Whats the difference between "Suspended indefinitely" " onhold" and cancel?:rolleyes:

Parking the 135's & 140's
 

When oil goes $90 a barrel these plane lose money just starting up.

Eagle buys its fuel from American so it "loses" as much or little as AMR decides. I think it was obvious that the 135s and 140s would be phased out no matter what based on the 145-only payscale proposed in the TA. But I don't see the benefit in parking all these airplanes and furloughing the bottom pilots after the investment in training. The concept to getting Eagle competitive was to help the senior people move on to AA and reduce the longevity disparity. Furloughing all the junior guys worsens the problem.
My gut feeling is that AA will operate 100-seat airplanes and short, narrowbody (A319) on a B-scale with long-narrowbody (A320, 737-800, etc) on an industry average payscale, i.e., Delta. Scope will be eased to allow a percentage-based 70-seat jet feed, of which Eagle will do some and other regionals will as well. Eagle will phase out the small ERJs and pick up CRJ-700s at maybe a 2:1 ratio. And Eagle will pursue outside contracts with other carriers (USAir) to offset the difference in AA flying.

The problem remains that Eagle is still wholly owned and will not succeed in bidding for outside contracts as long as this doesn't change.

700 furloughs means all 2011 hires, plus a big chunk of 2010 hires.

Is 700 an official number or a speculation/rumor? I hope it's the latter, 700 pilots is a lot of brethren on the streets.

God speed.

Why park the 140s? I can see why the 135s can be parked. If you have a 145 go out with 6 empty seats, then you have a full 140. I know its smaller, but is that much of a difference when flights go out with open seats on them. You have to remember that all flights arent full all the time. Even the CRJ which goes out empty all the time.

Look at the loads so far for the aspen flying thats about to start.

Nobody has said for sure anything will be parked yet. They said certain leases will be looked at, AMR has a lot of planes in ROW that are already parked that they are just wasting money on every month, those will probably be the most likely to be a high priority in shedding leases. It does not necessarily mean they are going to gut the entire operation overnight that we are flying now. That makes absolutely no sense. No furloughs have been announced yet, only AA/AE classes suspended, which is perfectly normal and understandable with the uncertainty of going into bankruptcy. Check airman and sim instructors know no more about our future plans than the guy cleaning the toilets in terminal 3. That is one thing I have learned with 100% certainty in my years here.

It's comical how everyone has no idea what the hell they are talking about with whats economical or not for AMR. People just spew out regurgitated garbage because that's what some other idiot that knows nothing said: Hundreds of AE planes parked that are not economical all of a sudden because some tool named Boyd said so and I believe everything on the interweb, thousands furloughed out of seniority order, Executive shut down, wages reduced to minimum wage an no days off, EVER, vacations gone, 401 k match removed, health insurance terminated, mass suicides, children orphaned.. Lol. I work with retards.

Or just get rid of them both and replace both flights with one 737 with better economics then both those pigs. Then you can save out airport personnel as well.

Every Boyd projection ever made has Eagle shrinking into oblivion. Here is my question: If all the ERJs are parked and most of the CRJs are contracted out, then who is going to provide feed for AA? Is AA going to not have any feed after bankruptcy? We are talking about 250ish Eagle aircraft in the Boyd analysis. I do not think that it is feasible to outsource even in 5 years that much capacity (equivalent of 50 a/c per year @ ~45 seat average). Even if AMR was to just hand over airplanes to other regionals, there is still time investment in getting operations running within the AA structure. And the other airlines would have to staff them, which is also lead time. Why on earth would AMR spend the last year investing in training 700 pilots to furlough them and hand over the operation to other carriers (not wholly-owned) who are not even in a position to operate.
Alot of the discussion hinges on scope, because if unlimited 70+ seat scope is the result, then it is much worse for Eagle, as all the <50 seat a/c become obsolete. If the 70+ seat scope is limited then 50 seat a/c may still have a viable part in the AA feed equation, and then the attrition may be fairly benign (135s and 140s).