How cautious are you guys with turbulence?
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How cautious are you guys with turbulence?
After having pretty miserable luck this winter and today, seems every pairing I encounter at the very least Moderate Turbulence. I have also noticed (more than I have) pilots reporting MOD-SEV turbulence and nobody thinking much of it. A few months ago I was riding in the back of a CHQ airplane and the F/A mentioned that she had just been informed by the pilots that we were going to be going through "Severe Turbulence", myself and my crew kinda looked at each other like.....Why?, turn this bad boy around. When we landed I looked at the NOAA page and saw the WHOLE entire area by BWI was reporting Severe Turbulence, and everyone kept on trucking......
Anyway the point is I have flown with some guys that think nothing of reports of MOD-SEV turbulence reports and keep on trucking at 320Kts.....
Just kinda thinking out loud but it makes me wonder when airlines cancel flights because of 2 inches of snow, yet there is never any mention of re-routes etc when we are dispatched through areas of MOD-SEV..............
rant over,
Anyway the point is I have flown with some guys that think nothing of reports of MOD-SEV turbulence reports and keep on trucking at 320Kts.....
Just kinda thinking out loud but it makes me wonder when airlines cancel flights because of 2 inches of snow, yet there is never any mention of re-routes etc when we are dispatched through areas of MOD-SEV..............
rant over,
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I always wonder the same thing. I guess it's like 'severe icing': not supposed to fly through it, but you'll never get re-routed or cancelled for it. I asked a dispatcher once (when he came into our ground school) how he deals with severe icing- he had no answer, almost like he never had even heard of it.
Turbulence should be taken more seriously by many, and technically severe turbulence requires a write up and maintenance inspection. I also think that turbulence gets over-estimated sometimes- at least going by the text-book definitions.
Fly slow and speak up if the guy next to you thinks 320 in turbulence is just fine. Of course I don't understand why anyone flies that fast at all. We get paid by the hour.
Turbulence should be taken more seriously by many, and technically severe turbulence requires a write up and maintenance inspection. I also think that turbulence gets over-estimated sometimes- at least going by the text-book definitions.
Fly slow and speak up if the guy next to you thinks 320 in turbulence is just fine. Of course I don't understand why anyone flies that fast at all. We get paid by the hour.
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I take it into consideration, for sure, but I've found A LOT of people are, what I call, "turbulence over-staters." I can't tell you how many times I've heard moderate reported and it was light turb at worst. I've also seen it from FO's. We get into some light chop/OCNL turb. and they call ATC with moderate. I'm thinking, "Dude... I've been in moderate and this ain't it."
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I fly part 91 and sometimes I am amazed at what I see 121 guys go thru. I remember once going northbound with multiple turns around weather in KC center airspace and an airliner (think it was UPS) reported MOD turb for just a min or two. He than said "I think we just flew thru the top of a thunderstorm" Like it was no big deal. I see airliners cutting thru lines I would never try. My B--ls are small!
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If it's bad, you slow down to your turbulent air penetration speed, notify the flight attendant that it's gonna be bumpy, and you strap yourself in and truck on through.
If it gets really bad, you write it up and have maintenance take a look at it if need be.
I'll bet you that most of your passengers will be happier that you put them through that grueling ride, rather than diverting for reported turbulence that they never felt, and have to divert and make them miss their connections.
If it gets really bad, you write it up and have maintenance take a look at it if need be.
I'll bet you that most of your passengers will be happier that you put them through that grueling ride, rather than diverting for reported turbulence that they never felt, and have to divert and make them miss their connections.
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I fly part 91 and sometimes I am amazed at what I see 121 guys go thru. I remember once going northbound with multiple turns around weather in KC center airspace and an airliner (think it was UPS) reported MOD turb for just a min or two. He than said "I think we just flew thru the top of a thunderstorm" Like it was no big deal. I see airliners cutting thru lines I would never try. My B--ls are small!
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Wow, really? Your probably neing sarcastic. Its just hard to tell on the interwebs.
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