Since when did you take a turn to negative town rick? But hey, I guess the lifestyle isn't for everybody?

I prefer to think of it as "sport [edit]." :D PM sent.

I'm right there with ya, Newty! I'm a pilot and a reserve FO...what's not to complain about? It seems that SAPA forums isn't a great place to complain anymore, so we gotta use APC :D

ORD FO - 76 hours 16 days off for May

Lineholder, I assume? What are the reserves doing?

SLC RJ CA reserve... working everyday!! 105hrs credit last month.. Mostly Locals and two days. Works for me...

ORD FO 65 hours 17 days off.... that includes leadership class and a carry-in. So much for max credit in layer one.

Well, I got long call, and I didn't even bid for it. In fact, I made sure to bid for almost everything else just so I wouldn't get it. Gotta love PBS!

Wanna trade?! I would take 65 hours in a blink of the eye. You can have my 10 days off a month RSV line.

95 hours, 14 days off for May, mostly 700, weekends off... best line I've had in years
that's compared to the 77-82 hours and 15 days off I was holding only a few months ago...

Max credit does not have anything to do with the credit your line gets...
it only helps decide which pairing(s) you get when more than one pairing exists in the layer at your seniority level... for example if your layer 1 consists of the following 4 pairings for the same week, and assuming all 4 pairings are available it will do the following...
if pairing 1 is a 4 day worth 20 hours
and pairing 2 and 3 are 2 day back to back worth 12 hours each
and pairing 4 is a 5 day worth 23.5
max credit will chose the 2 day back to backs..

It has nothing to do with line credit, if you want max line credit you have to specify a minimum in layers 1-6... I don't recommend putting a minimum in layer 7 because you run the risk of PBS starting over and dumping your higher layer pairings in favor of higher credit lower layer pairings.

It seems the hardest part of PBS is learning how to use it.

The hardest part of PBS is having nothing but lousy pairings to choose from!!!!:mad:

Don't change bro.

I was calling them SkyWaste way before anyone else was, from 99-'03. And those were supposedly "good years". It was a 1 year upgrade to EMB CA in FAT. And then just another 1.5 years to CRJ CA in SLC. And I was still ****ed off the entire 4 years I spent at that outfit. And I'm still ****ed off now, 7 years and 3 airlines later.

Don't change dude!

Wouldn't that be part of the deal before accepting PBS??

Blaming bad pairings on PBS is like blaming the engines for a lousy avionics suite.

There seems to be some confusion...I didn't "accept" PBS, it was crammed down our throats! As far as bad pairings go, the ones in our domicile have been on a downhill slide for quite some time. I know they could be easily improved if our fantastic group of crew schedulers made a little effort!

I know you've volunteered to be RSR... right?

Also the pairing quality can be mostly be blamed on United and the needs of the RJ. (last light out, first flight in) More stand ups would help, but seeing as don't believe those should be legal anyway I'm ok with it. Also I thought May pairing quality was very high comparatively to April.

It just so happens that we already have an RSR... Based on what he told me, it doesn't seem like his input makes a whole lot of difference anyway. He gives them a heads up on what we'd like, and then they give us whatever garbage they want regardless!! The United blame game doesn't fly, our Delta side is just as bad if not worse.

Glad to "hear" your pairing quality was "very high"... It proves my point that our pairings in a more senior base than yours, can and should be improved!:rolleyes:

These bad pairings really have me worried. There is no greater morale killer than crappy schedules for everybody. I'm sure there is more to it than meets the eye, but it sure seems like there are several zero-effort and zero-cost changes that could be made to make the pairings more desirable.

Exactly!!!!

And really, the worst part about it is the "I don't care" attitude from the people building them.

It's nice to see not everyone gulped down their whole pitcher of Kool-aid!



and by the way they care!!!!









Just not about us low life pilots!

Keep an eye on The UAL CAL merger, if it happens this could be the second golden age of skywest. There will new flying up for grabs as well as old flying from airlines like xjt and mesa that probably won't survive the merger due to their high costs and horrible financial states. It wouldn't surprise me if Skywest even helped financed the merger to get a guarante percentage of the flying.

Our costs on the 70 seaters are the lowest in the industry and we are the BEST positioned to take on new flying the quickest. Wouldn't be surprised if we get a IAH and EWR crj 700 base if this does happen. Keep your fingers crossed I know the boys in SGU are already planning their attack strategy.

I think both SkyWest/ASA and ExpressJet would come out the best in the merger situation. Maybe the BRO will show up in other areas of the country...

Also Colgan could be a factor with the Q400s... Dont know how the "last look" option would be for any new flying in a merged UA/CO.. Q400 to ASE?

Wow, just Wow....................:confused: No one drinks more Kool-Aid than you Slap.

So, just how do you think XJT's contract will be cancelled? Under what grounds? Remember that they’re operating at less than what our bid was. Make no mistake, their contract will be upheld during the merger just as ours will and just like with DAL our flying will be remain, for the most part, "status quo."

BTW, we at SKW are not the lowest cost regional, not even close.

The Delta side is just as bad because of Delta.... we don't determine our own schedule... The RJ is required to fly less hours but spread out more during the day... Pairing quality will improve when the frequency of the flights improve until then... expect either sits and short layovers or low credit and long layovers..... both of these are available.
out of curiousity where is this senior base?

Come on slap, usually your flame baits are a little more subtle than that ;)

Why didn't Slap tell you guys about the new E195's that SkW will get because of this?

Heck no!!! Any E-jets go to mainline!

Any signs of attrition, or training classes yet?

None.

The latest training bulletin that came out mentioned that there would be no classes of any type for the remainder of the year.

Of course things could always change...

No plans on a MSP domicile this year is what we're hearing.

Current number of pilots on SKW seniority list?

Fewer than when this thread was started!

2753 pilots

i'm in the 1200 seniority range and have been going up a few numbers a week for the last month. I don't think management expected much attrition when they decided not to hire this summer.

...and they are too proud to change their minds! Just like the closing / not re-opening MKE.

There were legal reasons with Midwest (Republic) they had to close MKE.

I was displaced from MKE and am not aware of this. Please explain.

There were no logical or legal reasons to close SAN!!!