FA Jumpseat discontinued UAX SkyWest[edit]
 

Well it looks like UAL is at it again. Found out yesterday from an outstation agent that Skywest will NO LONGER accept cabin jumpseating as per a memo all outstations received..

"Cabin Jumpseat Agreements on UAX flights operated by SkyWest have been
discontinued.
Flight Attendants requesting NRSA travel on UAX flights operated by SkyWest
must be electronically authorized or possess a paper NRSA ticket such as
an ID 90 or ZED fare.
Pilots may only travel OMC in the Flight Deck as authorized by CASS. Pilots
requesting NRSA travel in the cabin on UAX flights operated by SkyWest must
be electronically authorized or possess a paper NRSA ticket such as an ID
90 or ZED fare."

electronically authorized sounds like CASS to me...

Sounds like united might be trying to close a loophole you could use to avoid paying their 50 dollar or whatever it is non-rev fee... How friendly of them

Ok... I want to make sure I understand this. As a DAL pilot, if I try to jumpseat a Skywest UAX flight with seats open in the back, they won't let me on? Per TSA, if there are seats available in the cabin, I can't ride in the cockpit jumpseat and according to this memo I can't ride in the cabin either. Am I reading that correctly?

BINGO! That's how we are understanding it to be thus u would need to buy a zed fare. It effects those not associated with ual/uax. It's messed up.

whats the point of cass like a second check on denial. lol

Are you sure?

"Pilots requesting NRSA travel in the cabin on UAX flights operated by SkyWest must be electronically authorized"

CASS being the "electronic authorization" should be sufficient to get OAL pilots in the cabin.

To be honest I am not sure. We haven't had any other info and it's all been worst case speculation. Either way our jumpseat chair/president is looking into it.

Of course before we all get too wrapped around the axle on this, maybe the first thing we should do is contact our Jumpseat reps and get the real story.

The thread started out with, "...it looks like UAL is at it again."
Of course there was nothing in the memo that indicated that UAL had anything to do with it.

As for SkyWest, and their station agents, I'm here to tell you that they often get jumpseat issues wrong.


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Let's just wait and see what the real story is before everybody panics.

Hog

Business as normal folks, especially for you offline guys... SAPA states that this just has to do with flight attendants, so no pilot should be sweating anything.

But it still affects flight attendants? I think we should also be concerned for them. We all need to get to work....

It starts with the flight attendant then spreads to the pilots next. Just wait. Thank you SkyWest.

Then why post it as a statement titled "Cabin Jumpseating discontinued on UAX SkyWest" without even so much as a "?" added to indicate you don't really know?

Take a deep breath, relax, and await factual information.

No need to play this game:

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nice flame

I was just going by what the memo stated and what the station agents understood how to go about it. The memo states it affects pilots that are oal can only sit in the jumpseat otherwise need a zed fare to sit in the back. Do I know how it will be implemented system wide no. But mostly as a heads up to everyone that flies on uax/skw.

Everything you just said is wrong, you are trying to freak out pilots to be upset at SKW for a different agenda. Nothing has changed here for you guys jumpseating on us. If some gate agent tries to limit jumpseaters demand the captain, then demand a supervisor (in a nice way). Lots of misinformation. NO CHANGE TO OFFLINE JUMPSEATERS....

No flame intended or I burn myself. I will rephrase it. "thank you SkyWest...management."

We are just as much at risk as anyone else. The memo does not specify Oal jumpseaters or FA's. It is a blanket change. This has a lot of us upset. And our SAPA group knew nothing of it before it came out. Shows how "open-door" SkyWest really is. This is another example just like our health plans that were scrapped in an email.
Tfayd

How am I trying to freak out pilots? I understand and read the email and saw the orig memo. Either this came from skw or ual or both. It was targeted at fa's but why include pilots if it wasn't suppose to include us. our pres/sapa jumpseat chair seemed to be blindsided about it and confronted chip about it. Yes the capt is the final say but there are some gate agents that won't let u down to talk with them. I agree not all the facts about this are out on this but it's no like I am talking about some rumor or I heard from a friend. It's a memo that is targeted against commuting crew. Is it fair for fa's to get this taken away just on skw? If u think I am spreading fear whatever.....

No. In his first post he blames UAL for the situation. There's nothin' more fun than starting a jumpseat war between the pilot groups.

Hog

You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different conclusions written on it that you could JUMP TO.....That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.

I jumpsat on SKW today and it was one of the best jumpseating experiences I've ever had. Myself along with two uniformed armed servicemen were put up in first class. We had excellent service from two beautiful flight attendants and we even got in a couple of minutes early. Can't ask for much more than that.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what about Dx-ers? Planning some trips to the bay area in a few months.

The memo has been clarified by UAL Corp. (the originator) to skywest management, and a new memo has been issued. The original memo was to be applied to Flight Attendants ONLY. The inclusion of pilots in the memo is what caused the confusion. The new memo specifically states there are no restricitons on pilots jumpseating (cabin seats, and CASS for cockpit seats) on SkyWest aircraft.

But now the flight attendents can't get to work unless they buy an ID90.

Could a US Airways mainline FA 'jumpseat' on a Skywest UAX flight?

If you're a Skywest pilot, talk to your jumpseat chair about this issue. Protecting the jumpseat for Skywest pilots is his responsibility.

Thanks M for the post.

No. no more Jumpseats on skywest (soon to be all) UAX for FA's... i think even our own.

I hate that FA's get treated so badly. I really don't understand it.

Management doesn't see us as people, they see us as disposable tools, numbers, facts and figures. In some cases a hindrance. There is no consideration as to how new policies or rule changes might affect us. There is only the profits and how to increase them. No matter who is negatively affected. I've read a lot of noble thoughts and intentions on this board. We refer to ourselves as fellow aviators, brothers and sisters. I read the words unity and solidarity. I read phrases such as, let's stand together and let's take our profession back. It's sickening to see how management is not only devoid of this mentality but ignores it and in most cases takes advantage of it. They are poison.