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yamahas3 05-14-2010 01:21 PM

New Rest Rules?
 
Its never really going to happen is it?

People stopped paying attention and everyone went back to business as usual. Has any progress actually happened? Or should we just forget the whole thing?

AirWillie 05-14-2010 01:23 PM

No it's probably coming soon.

TBucket 05-14-2010 01:28 PM

It's not gonna happen. It would cost the airlines money.

higney85 05-14-2010 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 811563)
It's not gonna happen. It would cost the airlines money.

Never compromise savings.

The Juice 05-14-2010 03:14 PM

Aviation safety is no longer sexy for Washington to discuss and fix

FlyJSH 05-14-2010 03:36 PM

HR 915 FAA Reautherization Act has passed the House and contains the following language:


SEC. 306. FLIGHT CREW FATIGUE.

(a) In General- Not later than 3 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall conclude arrangements with the National Academy of Sciences for a study of pilot fatigue.

(b) Study- The study shall include consideration of--

(1) research on pilot fatigue, sleep, and circadian rhythms;

(2) sleep and rest requirements of pilots recommended by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board; and

(3) Federal Aviation Administration and international standards regarding flight limitations and rest for pilots.

(c) Report- Not later than 18 months after initiating the study, the National Academy of Sciences shall submit to the Administrator a report containing its findings and recommendations regarding the study under subsections (a) and (b), including recommendations with respect to Federal Aviation Administration regulations governing flight time limitations and rest requirements for pilots.

(d) Rulemaking- After the Administrator receives the report of the National Academy of Sciences, the Administrator shall consider the findings in the report and update as appropriate based on scientific data Federal Aviation Administration regulations governing flight time limitations and rest requirements for pilots.

(e) Flight Attendant Fatigue-

(1) STUDY- The Administrator, acting through the Civil Aerospace Medical Institute, shall conduct a study on the issue of flight attendant fatigue.

(2) CONTENTS- The study shall include the following:

(A) A survey of field operations of flight attendants.

(B) A study of incident reports regarding flight attendant fatigue.

(C) Field research on the effects of such fatigue.

(D) A validation of models for assessing flight attendant fatigue.

(E) A review of international policies and practices regarding flight limitations and rest of flight attendants.

(F) An analysis of potential benefits of training flight attendants regarding fatigue.

(3) REPORT- Not later than June 30, 2010, the Administrator shall submit to Congress a report on the results of the study.

(f) Authorization of Appropriations- There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to carry out this section.

TedStryker 05-14-2010 03:50 PM

The latest information (about a week old) that has come out is that proposed regulations are being held up at the Office of Management and Budget over concerns that the proposed regulations would prove too costly when compared to the potential benefits. Upon hearing this the Colgan 3407 families (among others) got very riled up about not compromising safety for costs. Who knows if it did any good.

yamahas3 05-14-2010 04:14 PM

Wow, so according to that, its going to be up to 21 months after the passage of this bill before they even start creating new FARs.

This is completely pathetic.

The Juice 05-14-2010 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by yamahas3 (Post 811631)
Wow, so according to that, its going to be up to 21 months after the passage of this bill before they even start creating new FARs.

This is completely pathetic.

It's worse than 21 months. After that airlines will be allowed a set period to adapt to these new rules (hiring, scheduling software, etc..) I have heard that they may allow the airlines 24 months to make these changes...so how does 2014 sound for reform?

Wheels up 05-14-2010 06:39 PM

I know this might come as a shock to some, but the FAA is worthless.


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