confused about this ASA thing
 

First off, congrats on your new logo and rumours of world domination - seriously its nice to have positive vibes at work, we havent had anything positive in years here at pinnacle.
I am just so confused as to what is going on here. You have a new website, logo, and press release yet there is nothing on the main skywest website saying anything about anything of this.
500 aircraft flying to all 50 states - this is a ton of aircraft. Plus Skywest has a ton of aircraft and they also fly for United and Delta. Skywest also owns you and I am trying to be realistic here. It was my understanding that ASA was owned by Skywest therefore ASA could not purchase anyone on their own. Where does Skywest fit into all of this? Are you guys merging under the Atlantic Southeast name?
Not bashing anyone or anything but just reading all of this to an outsider it seems impossible unless there are mergers or aquisitions involved, and its hard to believe Atkins would let Skywest just sit there and watch all this without any growth on their side. Anyways, good luck with whatever happens. Maybe you could aquire us

Its a new corporate image and a corporate goal. That is all. 50/50/500 thing is just a vision to move the airline forward. There is no other information aside from that, unfortunately. No acquisitions on the horizon as far as anyone knows, no aircraft orders, no news of pilot recalls, zilch. As far as where SkyWest fits with this...it seems to be that ASA, oops, Atlantic Southeast Airlines management is trying to disassociate us from SkyWest to create two distinct brands within the SkyWest, INC umbrella. Just a guess. Aside from that, SkyWest is not involved with any of this rebranding stuff. Hope that helps.

SkyWest has the stronger name and will never be phased out for the ASA brand.

Currently SKW Inc has over 450 a/c and operates in all 48 mainland states. I have no idea how they would ever make it into Alaska or Hawaii.

I agree with RamenNoodles, two completely separate airlines. We at SKW never hear the name ASA mentioned from Mgmnt unless it's in a financial report.

Aerial refueling.

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Currently SKW Inc has over 450 a/c and operates in all 48 mainland states. I have no idea how they would ever make it into Alaska or Hawaii.
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Purchase what's left of Mesa that would knock out Hawaii (GO!)

Great, another "regional" trying to grow by replacing more mainline flying, adding new aircraft, scooping up other companies with the same 'ole crappy pay attached with it. How exciting:rolleyes:

What is so confusing about Atlantic SUPER Airline?

Yep, that’ll work! LMAO………..

Respectfully, no thank you.

It looks to me like SkyWest is getting ready to dump the ASA division and is hoping to hype it up so someone will pay them for it instead of just shutting it down.

Just to clarify, Skywest AIRLINES does not own ASA. Skywest Inc owns both Atlantic Southeast airlines and Skywest airlines. So they are considered our "sister carrier" So if you are referring to the Skywest AIRLINES website it would not say anything about it because they are a completely separate airline.

Question for you: Did SkyWest INC exist prior to the purchase of ASA?

Just wondering...

Skywest Inc came to be after a merger with Sun Aire in 1985 apparently. I googled and found an article with this ..

"The merger also resulted in forming the holding company SkyWest, Inc., with its three subsidiaries: SkyWest Airlines Inc. (changed from the earlier SkyWest Aviation Inc.), National Parks Transportation Company for the Avis rental car business, and Aviation Services West, Inc. for the fixed base operations."

Hmmm... Interesting. When I google "SkyWest Inc" the first two links lead to the SkyWest Airlines website, the third is the Wikipedia article that states:

Sounds like a corporate shell-game/paper shuffle to me.

SKYW Inc. HQ wouldn't happen to be in a medium-sized desert town in southern Utah, would it?

In the same building as SkyWest Airlines HQ? Yep!

From the new website "We have a fresh look and a new vision to connect more people, more often to the places they love, by becoming the world’s first super regional carrier."

Why a regional airlin?. Just say airline flying small plane under someone elses name.

Same way AMR owns American and AMR Eagle. It is a typical corporate structure. Just Like Republic Holdings owns all of the carriers. There is nothing special about this.

I suspect that ASA may "acquire" Mesaba and Compass or at least be awarded some assets in the future, with Pinnacle getting some of the OH stuff.

That is just a guess.

No they don't.

Find me an airport in Delaware that has airline service.

I take it everyone pulled out of ILG?

I have to say that is the funniest thing I've heard all day, tell me why Delta would sell one of the best performing regionals in XJ...the stats don't lie, XJ and CZ are always in the top 5 with completion factor and ontime performance...just don't see why Delta would get rid of a good thing here...

personally I think the rebranding is because when people used to see that ASA logo on the side of an RJ coming towards the gate it always represented a late arrival or departure...this gives em a fresh start?

Simple. Comair is on the chopping block to be liquidated to pay off the LEX losses. Mesaba and Compass would be the remaining wholly owned carriers. They want to eliminate the Compass flow through, so they will be shutting down Compass and selling the assets. That leaves Mesaba, and it's not worth keeping one small wholly owned, so they will be selling them as an airline the way they did with ASA. SKW Inc has proven they can run a good airline, so Delta knows their feed is secure.

Tony;
Yep, and those 76 seat jets would be a great carrot to use to renegotiate the FFD contracts that SKW and ASA have. If not that, then 2 for 1 on a ton of 50 seat jets.

Lot of you are hearing something is up, I am just giving a guess. Markets improving and DAL wants to get out of the WO business. None of that is secret.

Nice theory, but the flow remins in effect with whoever buys Compass. Because of that, by keeping them in house, Delta can control the interviewing and hiring process.

Keep in mind who "they" are too. Are you referring to "They" the company, or "They," the faction within the union who wanted to get rid of Compass?

That's why Compass will be shut down and liquidated, not sold. Delta (both management and the union) want to get rid of the flow through. It was never theirs to begin with, since NWA created it.

Um not if the jets are awarded somewhere else and the certificate is not transferred. It is very gray at best. Read the LOA. It is in the DALPA file library. They are referenced in the PWA. LOA 2006-10 and 12 and one in 2008.

It states in the LOA the flow becomes unavailable, and it does not state how, so there may be some interpretation that needs to be done. It also will go back to the negotiators notes for the intention of the wording. I would venture to bet that dissolving the carrier was not one of their intentions behind that wording.

Of course this could be way off, and they just sell them so that they can give ASA pilots a flow too.

That is just flat out wrong. Got proof? Certain factions within the union want it gone, not the whole union. And if you are talking about the splitting off of the Compass pilots from DALPA representation, it wasn't to get rid of the flow, it was because members of the MEC thought that there would be DFR issues if Compass was merged into the mainline group. Then, the DALPA MEC would be negotiating with itself on an SLI.

Quoting wikipedia as a factual source is about as pointless as arguing on an internet forum

lol...................sorry, I forgot Delaware was still a state. :rolleyes:

No matter what happens to CPZ, the flow remains. Sorry.

I love all these guys talking on behalf of delta management without any source.

I will tell you I spoke 1 on 1 with the man in charge of compass crew planning and delta DOES like the flow. They intend to keep it and that is why they have now taken over half of the interview process at compass. Compass interviews will consist of a written and cog test in ATL and an HR interview in MSP.

Lmao... The New Power Revolution.