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Lance Uppercut 08-11-2006 07:09 AM

Anybody know how many planes will they use? Will they all be day lines?


Late,

Lance

Slaphappy 08-11-2006 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by stickwiggler (Post 52454)
Are you sure that is correct? I read in USA today that they were still planning on sizing down there fleet and things looked bad.

Any senior Comair guys out there with solid info.

I think its due to attrition, lots of people are leaving there like crazy because of the situation.

stickwiggler 08-11-2006 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut (Post 52480)
Anybody know how many planes will they use? Will they all be day lines?


Late,

Lance

Lance, the formula (since I've been here) is 5 warm bodies (per seat) per aircraft. They announced that it would be 3 aircraft to start and up to 6 later on. The bid came out with 15 capts/ 15 c/p, so the old formula still holds true.

I've heard that in Jan we might see the first 700 but that's just rumor.

St

Laxrox43 08-12-2006 02:34 AM

How does everyone feel about the possible Lax base? Stoked, or not so stoked? I know cost of living out there is kind of rough, because I, myself have looked at moving out there...I really like it out there but in reality, know that I would be living off of food stamps if I did:p

Lax

B757200ER 08-12-2006 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 50259)
LAX will grow very large. for 2 reasons. Delta wants to expand that base very large and right now American Eagle flys for delta. The reason is 5 years ago delta came to asa to try and open a LA base with something like 30 a/c. the then prez Skip Barnett said that was impossible for ASA to do since we were already expanding in DFW. The flying was given to American Eagle. This has always been a problem for delta since they don't want delta pax flying on Americans A/C. The plan is to slowing grow LAX for ASA and delta connection and eventually drop eagle out of the picture.

I see LA as the next DFW for ASA with massive growth for it.

Makes perfect sense for Delta; why use AMR Eagle when you can use a real DL Connection carrier?

As far as 'massive growth' at LAX, I don't think so. The market is saturated, both AA/UA have hubs, with over 150 daily SWA flights and US is growing. And, they just closed 25R, which brings down LAX to a 3-runway operation instead of 4. In other words, no capacity for growth.

Truman_Sparks 08-12-2006 06:51 PM

5 new planes would be massive growth for ASA! Unlike CHQ, who grows by 50 or so airframes per year.

stickwiggler 08-13-2006 09:44 AM

Truman,
ASA has seen massive growths spurts too. When the contract is signed I believe things will get better. I just read that Skywest inc. has an order for 70 new planes all 700 or 900's. Yes, I'm sure SW airlines will get their fare share, but Atl is still the bread and butter of Delta, and I believe we will get our share as well.
Insider info... King Tutt recently met with SW exec's in LAS. After that the slow wheels of "talks" began again, informal as they may be, one could surmise that JA told them in his best Georgian accent "get er dun"

wishfull thinking? probably
logical guess? maybe
Stick is an idiot? most definetly!

Slaphappy 08-13-2006 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by stickwiggler (Post 52891)
Truman,
ASA has seen massive growths spurts too. When the contract is signed I believe things will get better. I just read that Skywest inc. has an order for 70 new planes all 700 or 900's. Yes, I'm sure SW airlines will get their fare share, but Atl is still the bread and butter of Delta, and I believe we will get our share as well.
Insider info... King Tutt recently met with SW exec's in LAS. After that the slow wheels of "talks" began again, informal as they may be, one could surmise that JA told them in his best Georgian accent "get er dun"

wishfull thinking? probably
logical guess? maybe
Stick is an idiot? most definetly!

I heard from a Jet Captain that ASA has about 10 50 seat crjs in Montreal, ready to be certified and brought down to us. They were old Indy Airs and are going thru the checks now or something. Might go to LA or ATL.

I hope we get them and I hope we get some more 700s. I just want ANY goodnews for ASA, we deserve that much after a year of pure hell. I mean even AL Bundy got a few good things now and then.

Lance Uppercut 08-15-2006 08:51 AM

Source: Aviation Daily

Delta yesterday unveiled plans to create a mini-hub in Los Angeles, which will be used to accommodate a nearly 45% jump in weekly flight departures this winter as the carrier looks to boost its market share to Mexico and Latin America.

The move was expected after the carrier filed the expanded schedule on Friday. Delta has been eyeing a LAX expansion for a quite some time, said Bob Cortelyou, VP-network planning, but its resources have been focused on Atlanta and New York recently. Demand is growing to Mexican leisure and ethnic destinations from the U.S. West Coast, which made this winter the right time to launch the expansion, he said.

In addition to the increasing demand, Delta's terminals at LAX are underused and could accommodate significant domestic and international growth as the building has customs and immigration facilities, Cortelyou told The DAILY. Delta acquired Terminal 5 when it bought Western Airlines in 1986, and it has made recent upgrades, including an underground connector to some Delta gates in Terminal 6, opened July 1.

The carrier added some LAX feed from mid-sized East Coast markets in recent months from Hartford, Columbus and Raleigh/ Durham. Starting in December, Delta will add intra-California regional feed to Los Angeles from San Francisco, Sacramento, Oakland and San Jose. Cortelyou said the new California flights are timed to boost feed to the new LAX hub, and Delta is not interested in battling incumbents Southwest and United for California origin-and-destination passengers.

Delta will have two daily LAX flight banks of service to and from Mexico and Central America. The expansion will start Dec. 15 and will last through March 2007, with many of the flights being operated by Connection carrier Atlantic Southeast. The carrier will add nonstop flights to nine Mexican cities, as well as one city each in Costa Rica and Guatemala.

According to published schedules, Delta will have 431 weekly departures by March, representing a 44% jump in total departures. Because most of the flights will be flown with 50- or 70-seat regional jets, total seats per week will grow by about 13%. In terms of total seat share at LAX, Delta will remain a distant fourth behind United, American and Southwest.

Delta executives note, however, that none of the larger carriers at LAX offers much service south of the border. The largest competitor to Delta's Mexican LAX expansion is Alaska Airlines, Cortelyou said. Alaska's March schedule shows 359 weekly LAX departures, including service to 10 Mexican points. Executives note that the LAX boost will not mean Delta will slow Latin growth from its other hubs, with new service planned to start in December from Atlanta, JFK and Salt Lake City, subject to government approval.

Delta hinted that there is more LAX expansion to come beyond yesterday's announcement. Besides growing service to the South, the carrier said there is "lots of potential" to other regions of the world, including Asia/Pacific destinations.

GreatView 08-17-2006 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks (Post 52793)
5 new planes would be massive growth for ASA! Unlike CHQ, who grows by 50 or so airframes per year.


Ain't it the truth...


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