Listening to the conference call last night was a waste of time. Our mec seems to keep emphasizing that there is nothing else we can do. I think there is a lot more they can do. They don't want to get in trouble in fear of a work action viloation but you could advise the group to flythe book, write up any mx item, discourage picking up open time...you get the idea. Now they are scrambling to do somethign like picketing. When was the last time we did that? There should have been more pressure on the comany the whole time. What a joke

So, we get no contract but we aquire mesaba....seems fair. Keep up the good work guys, the bonuses this year should be real nice for our execs.

Sorry mesaba guys, you've been pinnaclized...be sure to bring that dr's note in if you call in sick....

You all need to recall your MEC then replace the chairman. That is the only way forward.

Maybe you guys should try to use the resources of XJ now. They went through this in the 2004 contract and in bankruptcy. The guys over there know what they are doing and you now have not only a 9E pilot group, but also a XJ pilot group who are all ticked off. Throw in a ticked off Colgan group and you might be able to get something done.

At this point, everyone needs to put everything aside. Pinnacle is one company and they need one list and one contract. They can have as many certificates as they want but like I said, one list and one contract.

I believe any change in the status quo is an illegal work action.

Do the research, and you'll see GWB was too busy being brought up to speed on being president to deal with a Comair strike. He'd only been in office two months.

From CNN 3/26/01:


If the NMB had determined that the Comair strike would cause "significant harm" economically to a region, then LIKELY a PEB would have been set up. Unless they state that, a PEB isn't even an option.

Hinting that Bush would let 9E (or anyone else) strike is about as flawed as assuming Obama will automatically let it happen.

Absolutely nowhere in that CNN article does it support your claim that GWB was "too busy being brought up to speed on being president to deal with a Comair strike".

The NMB didn't think a Comair strike would cause "significant harm to the country" so a PEB wasn't set up. If Bush was as vehemently anti-labor as some claim, he'd have stopped what he was doing and ended that Comair strike via PEB simply because he could.

But he didn't.

When you think about it, the exact same could be said of the Spirit strike; the Obama Administration knew it wouldn't cause significant harm to the country to lose just 1% of its daily seats so they let them walk. It saves face between the Democrats & labor while causing no long-term harm to the public interest.

I'd bet a C-note he wouldn't let American walk...

I agree. That said, I didn't hint at anything...simply said CMR's strike happened while GWB was President. Which is fact.

Recall Erickson. How long has he been Chairman? Four years? Outside of telling everyone how pi$$ed he is what else has he done for the 9E group. He's out of his league and does nothing to advance your cause.

No matter who is serving the Kool-Aid, it is always poisoned:

Airline Strikes Under the RLA


Jim Jones lives on.......

What can he do? Pretty much nothing. We are all bound by the RLA. NMB isn't helping things by continually letting the company stall. Now TA 1 should never have came to vote. People responsible for that concessionary TA have been replaced.
Also Pinnacle pilots aren't helping the cause: not following the FOM and being unsafe and unprofessional, just to get out on time.

Now we will not see a contract for a LONG LONG time, until the lists have been merged.

Exactly. Or he can finally go and get qualified and go back to the line and he can earn his keep and get the actual tone of the pilot group. Since we can't move forward and accomplish anything, and if they aren't going to tell pilots what to do (short if work action) time to go to work. Sorry nothing personal, just business....