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GreatView 08-02-2006 09:44 AM

Commuting to LAX....
 
In light of ASA's recent announcement of opening up LAX with a bid coming in a few days, can anyone give recommendations on crashpads in LAX? Transportation arrangements? Extended Stay hotels? ect.....

And for those who want to bash the idea of commuting in and out of LAX, don't bother responding. I want real answers please......

Slaphappy 08-02-2006 10:15 AM

Just wondering how junior or senior are you? I'm just trying to get an idea if it will go junior or senior

stickwiggler 08-02-2006 10:33 AM

slap, I think I posted this before, if so, apologies.... If you are enquiring about left seat, I know there has been a few in SLC senior to me (313 on the list) but, I also think they might change their minds, some bid it before they came out with the day line only thing.
Here's an idea.... once the list does come out, we should all trade numbers, or use the alpa board maybe, and do a hotel room share. I use to live in LA and still visit sometimes, traffic is horrible, parking at Aport I hear is $$.
I wish I had good news, but I haven't been able to find any.
ST

Slaphappy 08-02-2006 10:35 AM

I won't see the left seat for a while. Being in the right seat in LA will make it hard to live. I know in Ontario/Victorville CA its fairly inexpensive to live but I'm not sure how far it is from LA.

Utah 08-02-2006 11:50 AM

Inexpensive and socal- ha. Two words that just don't work togeather down there.

rickair7777 08-02-2006 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy
I won't see the left seat for a while. Being in the right seat in LA will make it hard to live. I know in Ontario/Victorville CA its fairly inexpensive to live but I'm not sure how far it is from LA.


Ah, The Inland Empire, the industrial back lot of LA...the highest per-capita concentration of ex-cons in the nation...plus blazing desert heat to go with your smog...

It is reasonably priced...for SOCAL.

AirWillie 08-02-2006 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy
I won't see the left seat for a while. Being in the right seat in LA will make it hard to live. I know in Ontario/Victorville CA its fairly inexpensive to live but I'm not sure how far it is from LA.

Living in LA with reg pilot wages is not a good idea unless you're from LA and are established there. If it will be you first time, look elsewhere you might as well be based in Honolulu. Forget about housing, the apartments are becoming very expensive since not many can afford to buy anymore. Houses in the worst areas of LA are probably worth the same as 6 bedroom houses in the fly over states. PLUS traffic is horrible, if you live more than 20 miles from LAX(Ontario,Desert), expect your commute to take hours during rush hour which is like most of the day since the freeways leading to LAX are some of the busiest in the nation. I do have to say though that eventhough a lot of things suck, the proximity to the ocean and beach communites such as Malibu or Laguna and the weather kind of make up for living there.

mzkat1979 08-02-2006 12:43 PM

try the glendale and burbank areas. they aren't as pricey, but are still nice areas, and aren't too far from from super hip areas like silverlake, echo park...
if you are looking to buy, downtown la is turning a lot of old buildings into lofts, they are starting to get really expensive, but you can still find some that are reasonable, and will be great investments in the long run...
then there's always van nuys, but it's kinda porno....

BURflyer 08-02-2006 12:54 PM

GreatView, try the city of El Segundo it's right on the south side of LAX. On the map pick city button for zoom and you will see where it says El Segundo. They've got a lot of aprtments in that community. I don't know what the prices are but since it's close to the beach it might be expensive but the fact that it's close to noisy LAX might make it cheaper too.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...tate=&zipcode=

de727ups 08-02-2006 08:55 PM

I used to live in El Segundo. It's not cheap but it's a great, safe, place to live with easy access to LAX. $1000/mo will get you a dumpy studio. Bike path is awesome. Close to the beach.

74plb 08-02-2006 10:24 PM

Lax commuters
 
I've been based in LAX for 17 years and currently stay at the Hacienda when I have to breakdown and get a room. I don't have to do reserve so I don't usually need a room for more than two nights a month or so. The airline rates start at $55 and tax. They will drop you off or pick you up at Imperial or cargo or whatever. They have a 24 hour shuttle service with a Supermarket across the street.
Howard Johnsons is cheaper but the neighborhood is iffy imo.

GreatView 08-03-2006 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy
Just wondering how junior or senior are you? I'm just trying to get an idea if it will go junior or senior

40-50 numbers from ATL Left seat....


Originally Posted by stickwiggler
slap, I think I posted this before, if so, apologies.... If you are enquiring about left seat, I know there has been a few in SLC senior to me (313 on the list) but, I also think they might change their minds, some bid it before they came out with the day line only thing.
Here's an idea.... once the list does come out, we should all trade numbers, or use the alpa board maybe, and do a hotel room share. I use to live in LA and still visit sometimes, traffic is horrible, parking at Aport I hear is $$.
I wish I had good news, but I haven't been able to find any.
ST

I've heard the same thing. I'm hoping that the day line thing will allow me the upgrade since many won't want it. I do believe that once more a/c go online in LAX, there will be more variety with some overnights. This probably won't make a difference for me though since I know that I'll be junior.

The way I figure it now, I'll be using all the money (and probably more) from my upgrade just to support the commute. That is what I have come to expect. However, I am eager to get the coveted PIC time that everyone desires and do plan to get back to ATL as soon as possible, bringing up another question.....

From what I can read in our contract, even though you are SEAT LOCKED for 1yr after upgrade, you are NOT base locked. Is this the way everyone else understands it? Which technically means that if I can hold it and an ATL position opens up just a fews months later that I can actually bid it.

GreatView 08-03-2006 09:09 AM

Hotels and Priceline....
 
Anyone commuting ever use Priceline.com to get a dirt cheap rate?

I know that I've used them outside of the biz to get 3-4 star hotels for $35/night. You are able to bid for the "area" (small geographical areas), just not the actual hotel........

stickwiggler 08-06-2006 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by GreatView
40-50 numbers from ATL Left seat....



I've heard the same thing. I'm hoping that the day line thing will allow me the upgrade since many won't want it. I do believe that once more a/c go online in LAX, there will be more variety with some overnights. This probably won't make a difference for me though since I know that I'll be junior.

The way I figure it now, I'll be using all the money (and probably more) from my upgrade just to support the commute. That is what I have come to expect. However, I am eager to get the coveted PIC time that everyone desires and do plan to get back to ATL as soon as possible, bringing up another question.....

From what I can read in our contract, even though you are SEAT LOCKED for 1yr after upgrade, you are NOT base locked. Is this the way everyone else understands it? Which technically means that if I can hold it and an ATL position opens up just a fews months later that I can actually bid it.

yep, you are interpreting that correctly, but I think they have done base locks before and it got battled out in a greviance, but don't quote me on that.

Another thing for you to consider is, how many people that make Capt senior to you have the same plan? Also, don't forget you need the IACO standards... I forget, but I think it is like 3,500 total, etc.
Make sure you have a flight time summary, bid preference, and Class 1 medical on file (I mean call and check, BM lost mine years ago!) and then spin the wheel.
ST

GreatView 08-07-2006 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by stickwiggler
yep, you are interpreting that correctly, but I think they have done base locks before and it got battled out in a greviance, but don't quote me on that.

Another thing for you to consider is, how many people that make Capt senior to you have the same plan? Also, don't forget you need the IACO standards... I forget, but I think it is like 3,500 total, etc.
Make sure you have a flight time summary, bid preference, and Class 1 medical on file (I mean call and check, BM lost mine years ago!) and then spin the wheel.
ST


Hmmm, that's interesting (about the base locks). I'll have to check into that closely.

I've got the ICAO, so it won't be a problem. Better update my Flight Time Summary though, just in case....


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