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alpar80 09-08-2010 05:31 AM

quickest upgrades
 
Who has them?

Spoilers 09-08-2010 05:38 AM

Times of quick upgrades and moving on the majors in a few years are long gone. And because people were chasing upgrade time is how we got stuck with these crappy payrates.

Salukipilot4590 09-08-2010 05:49 AM

Dunno....whichever one will furlough you at the soonest opportunity.

saab2000 09-08-2010 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpar80 (Post 867283)
Who has them?

American Eagle and US Airways. Especially US Airways. Go ask the 20+ year F/Os how that upgrade is just around the corner. Not a very different story at Eagle.

What kind of question is this? Really?

The most junior upgrade at my company is probably about 3 years and sitting on RSV and being abused every day.

dosbo 09-08-2010 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpar80 (Post 867283)
Who has them?

No one.

Pick a carrier with pay rates and a contract you are willing to live with for a long time. It appears regional flying is taking a hit as things are being downsized and consolidated. Don't expect a quick upgrade at and then to move on from any regional in the near term future.

When hiring picks up at the mainline carriers you can expect regional flying to continue shrinking, particularly if UCAL gets scope under control.

If you are looking for PIC perhaps you should seek out some single pilot 135 operation. That is about the only place you will find a quick upgrade.

robthree 09-08-2010 05:59 AM

That's an easy one: Cape Air.

JungleBus 09-08-2010 06:04 AM

Ameriflight's a decent place to get turbine PIC if that's what you're after and you have 1200 TT. Just be careful, 135 freight flying will kill you if you give it half a chance.

Bumm 09-08-2010 06:29 AM

The FBO down the street from you will put you in the left seat of their Cessna 152 as soon as you start flying with them. Only problem is it's pay for training. Also it's pay for flying.

gearcrankr 09-08-2010 06:53 AM

Compass. Simply because of the number of pilots they have vs number of pilots able to flow to DAL on a yearly basis. I dont know about additional airframes, but that always helps.

rickair7777 09-08-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gearcrankr (Post 867331)
Compass. Simply because of the number of pilots they have vs number of pilots able to flow to DAL on a yearly basis. I dont know about additional airframes, but that always helps.

This might be good advice. The flow agreement is set and odds are there will be a lot of it.

TurboDog 09-08-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 867333)
This might be good advice. The flow agreement is set and odds are there will be a lot of it.

I thought only current compass guys were grandfathered into the flow-through.

gearcrankr 09-08-2010 07:05 AM

I would have put the "subject to change" verbage in my post BUT the DAL language appears to be solid in regards to the flow. Both sides firmly anchored in their positions.

dojetdriver 09-08-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 867335)
I thought only current compass guys were grandfathered into the flow-through.

Not sure of how the agreement was structured. But I think Rick was saying two different things.

1) The flow was protected, meaning that A LOT of guys will probably leave, meaning....

2) CA vacancies will free up at "quick" rate.

Lone Palm 09-08-2010 07:52 AM

Compass flow is intact for all those on property as of the date of sale. All other hired after are not included. The flow down remains in place.....

rickair7777 09-08-2010 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 867335)
I thought only current compass guys were grandfathered into the flow-through.

Yes, but if you get hired now you will probably upgrade, and get senior-in-seat, fast. I can't imagine why any eligible CZ pilot would decline to flow to DL.

JungleBus 09-08-2010 08:43 AM

Not knowing the original poster's background but guessing its not regional since he was naive enough to ask which one has the quickest upgrade...cps may not be an option, we don't seem to be hiring many cfi types, mostly prior 121/135/corp background.

DD214 09-08-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lone Palm (Post 867355)
Compass flow is intact for all those on property as of the date of sale. All other hired after are not included. The flow down remains in place.....

With this flow down put a new hire on the streets if it happens. and since the flow tru changed are they still doing the interview in Atlanta last I heard Delta was controlling the interview process, so if there is no flow tru why would Delta be doing this and what incentive are there besides to get current would there be to go to Compass.

CamYZ125 09-08-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DD214 (Post 867436)
With this flow down put a new hire on the streets if it happens. and since the flow tru changed are they still doing the interview in Atlanta last I heard Delta was controlling the interview process, so if there is no flow tru why would Delta be doing this and what incentive are there besides to get current would there be to go to Compass.

The interview was designed to closely match the DAL interview. The first few rounds of computer testing were done in ATL, but now CPZ has their own setup in MSP... so everything is done in one day there. Looks like they're going to continue the same hiring process, even though they aren't owned by DAL anymore. No reason not to...

alpar80 09-08-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 867379)
Not knowing the original poster's background but guessing its not regional since he was naive enough to ask which one has the quickest upgrade...cps may not be an option, we don't seem to be hiring many cfi types, mostly prior 121/135/corp background.

Pt 121. Colgan 650 turbine, Pt 135 Cape Air 1800, TT 2700, 4 Yr Degree. Has anyone heard of walking their resume right into HR?

mmaviator 09-08-2010 11:34 AM

quickest upgrade would be to get out of aviation, as SkyHigh would say.

gearcrankr 09-08-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 867453)
quickest upgrade would be to get out of aviation, as SkyHigh would say.

He is on the Allegiant 757 thread spreading cheer.:)

rickB 09-09-2010 08:07 AM

lakes is about a year and a half

BE19Pilot 09-09-2010 08:18 AM

Quickest upgrade is the United States military...

FLowpayFO 09-09-2010 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 867453)
quickest upgrade would be to get out of aviation, as SkyHigh would say.

So true...:p

fosters 09-09-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 867295)
American Eagle and US Airways. Especially US Airways. Go ask the 20+ year F/Os how that upgrade is just around the corner. Not a very different story at Eagle.

What kind of question is this? Really?

The most junior upgrade at my company is probably about 3 years and sitting on RSV and being abused every day.

It's actually 5 and growing

supersix-4 09-09-2010 04:46 PM

Upgrade?? What's that?

mmaviator 09-09-2010 06:02 PM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/...ec67a2ef65.jpg


Looking for quick upgrade......keep running:D


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