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JustAMushroom 10-20-2010 09:10 AM

SkyWest RJ at SFO
 
Was than an engine fire at SFO today? Trucks sprayed the RJ but in passing, it was difficult to see what the problem was... anyone?

DashDriverYV 10-20-2010 09:51 AM

Retirement?

flyandive 10-20-2010 09:59 AM

A pilot retirement ceremony would be my guess too. Were they forming an arc with two fire trucks that the RJ passed under?

minitour 10-20-2010 10:38 AM

Retiring in an RJ?














....ouch.

-mini

Zapata 10-20-2010 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887602)
Retiring in an RJ?


....ouch.

-mini

I'm no Christian, but there by the grace of god go I.

trip 10-20-2010 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887602)
Retiring in an RJ?














....ouch.

-mini

I was a new FO when the Capt flew his last flight and we had the full 2 truck salute with escort, was pretty cool because we were flying a Brasilla, he was a retired AF COL and proud to be retiring no matter the bird.

JustAMushroom 10-20-2010 11:19 AM

Funny... But no..

On 28R with "smoke"? coming from near the tail

minitour 10-20-2010 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 887613)
I'm no Christian, but there by the grace of god go I.

Uh, I think I'd retire from Arby's before I'd retire from an RJ.

At least at Arby's you get a free drink and can eat the old turnovers every day.

-mini

RJDio 10-20-2010 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887637)
Uh, I think I'd retire from Arby's before I'd retire from an RJ.

At least at Arby's you get a free drink and can eat the old turnovers every day.

-mini

There's going to be a lot of guys retiring in the rj at skywest. I don't think that's anyones dream but to each their own.

minitour 10-20-2010 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 887639)
...to each their own.

Very true and well said.

-mini

Hemet 10-20-2010 11:38 AM

retirement is retirement no matter what the size of the plane.

Hemet 10-20-2010 11:47 AM

Secptic about geting A320 typerating
 
Did anyone heard of Aerotraing in Florida? credentials of training. I have over 7000hrs and close to 5000jet and 3000hrs PIC all corporate flying. I was giving departure notice, due to owner selling airplane. Now I want to change my career from corporte to airline. Would A320 typerating open up the window of opportunity with the airline? Money is the decision making, should I or should not. Any advise!!!!!

minitour 10-20-2010 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Hemet (Post 887648)
Did anyone heard of Aerotraing in Florida? credentials of training. I have over 7000hrs and close to 5000jet and 3000hrs PIC all corporate flying. I was giving departure notice, due to owner selling airplane. Now I want to change my career from corporte to airline. Would A320 typerating open up the window of opportunity with the airline? Money is the decision making, should I or should not. Any advise!!!!!

I'd say go with the 737 type and send your stuff to Southwest.

What are you typed in? Any interest in staying in/getting back in corporate or 135?

-mini

Zapata 10-20-2010 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887637)
Uh, I think I'd retire from Arby's before I'd retire from an RJ.

At least at Arby's you get a free drink and can eat the old turnovers every day.

-mini

That's your choice. The point of my post is that retirement from a regional is an unavoidable reality for many pilots. No need to deride those that end their careers in an RJ. Shake their hand and wish them well, even if you're retiring CFI and your last flight is in a single engine Cessna. There's nothing wrong with it.

Hemet 10-20-2010 02:18 PM

re typerating
 
Yes I am typed in Lear Jet, Hawker400/700/800/800XP and Gulfstream/Galaxy 200. It just that I hear so much about the Airbus Type than Boeing.

Hemet 10-20-2010 02:22 PM

Yes I like to stay in aviation if I can help it. I do have past part 135 experience.

minitour 10-20-2010 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Hemet (Post 887721)
Yes I am typed in Lear Jet, Hawker400/700/800/800XP and Gulfstream/Galaxy 200. It just that I hear so much about the Airbus Type than Boeing.

If you really want to bang your head for a while, call up the folks at Delta AirElite (or Delta Private Jets or Segrave or Delta Business Jets....whatever it is this week). They like typed and current, but there's quite a few beechjets on the certificate. I think there's a few Hawker 800s too.

Not the place to stay forever, but it's a place until you find something better (which won't be hard).

-mini

Paid2fly 10-20-2010 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Hemet (Post 887648)
Did anyone heard of Aerotraing in Florida? credentials of training. I have over 7000hrs and close to 5000jet and 3000hrs PIC all corporate flying. I was giving departure notice, due to owner selling airplane. Now I want to change my career from corporte to airline. Would A320 typerating open up the window of opportunity with the airline? Money is the decision making, should I or should not. Any advise!!!!!







I'd "advise" you to get some good "advice"!!!!!

ZDub 10-20-2010 11:01 PM

Not for nothin' but HOLY THREAD CREEP BATMAN!!!. So ah...the SkyWest thing? Anyone?

minitour 10-21-2010 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by ZDub (Post 887927)
Not for nothin' but HOLY THREAD CREEP BATMAN!!!. So ah...the SkyWest thing? Anyone?

SkyWest is great. I love them. Especially when the company buys me an AirTran ticket and I get on a SkyWest RJ. That's the best!

-mini

RJ Pilot 10-21-2010 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887637)
Uh, I think I'd retire from Arby's before I'd retire from an RJ.

At least at Arby's you get a free drink and can eat the old turnovers every day.

-mini

And this comes from someone who flies a straight wing cessna jet. :rolleyes:

minitour 10-21-2010 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 888024)
And this comes from someone who flies a straight wing cessna jet. :rolleyes:

...making 8 year RJ pay. I'll take it.

That's what it's all about, right? Pay?

Or is it equipment this week?

...or union/non-union?

...or jumpseat wars?

I can never keep it straight.

-mini

JustAMushroom 10-21-2010 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 888035)
...making 8 year RJ pay. I'll take it.

-mini

for the rest of your career... don't forget to make the coffee and, ahhh.. never mind.

Back to the topic.. did anyone see this fire yesterday?

minitour 10-21-2010 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 888041)
for the rest of your career...

Sure. Exactly.:rolleyes:


don't forget to make the coffee and, ahhh.. never mind.
I have the FBO do that.

I think I want to go to the airlines just so I can play jumpseat wars and "my RJ is cooler than yours".

-mini

Utah 10-21-2010 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887602)
Retiring in an RJ?














....ouch.

-mini



I know what are they thinking..


Living in domicile, flying locals 3 -4 days a week, showing up at the airport at 8:00 am and off by 4:30. Home every night for dinner with the family, off every weekend, holiday and special occassion. And all for the measely sum of a $120K+ a year. (If they only work three days a week they'll only make 110K so they'll have to throw another local in there once a month to hit $120K) The fools.

They could have chased a job in a Boeing, commuted to reserve half way across the country, then held a line or maybe got a transfer somewhere closer. If they timed it right they'd have only spent maybe have of the last decade furloughed. Of course their crystal ball told them not to go to Eastern, Braniff, ATA, TWA, Midwest, and a long list of other places. Perhaps they should gone to Usair or American 15-20 years ago. Maybe they might be a junior captain on a narrowbody. More money? Sure. Better schedule? NO. Nore than likely, they'd still be in the right seat.

Yep, they should have left for United or TWA back around 2000-2001. They'd have been much better off. Way more time with the family.

Obviously, they won't have the luck that you will in your career. You'll have your choice of which Legacy or Cargo company you'll go to. You'll have quick movement on the seniority list, a quick upgrade to a widebody - as a captain of course, never be furloughed, with great pay and benefits, all in a domicile in your home city.

Of course were not talking about a lot pilots here at SkyWest. We'll retire less than 50 out of 2700+ in the next 10 years.

Utah 10-21-2010 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 888043)
Sure. Exactly.:rolleyes:



I have the FBO do that.

I think I want to go to the airlines just so I can play jumpseat wars and "my RJ is cooler than yours".

-mini

I thought you were waiting for your recall to Airnet.

You do know that the career progression for a Lear captain from there is to go to a regional to get 121 time so he can get hired somewhere else.

minitour 10-21-2010 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 888054)
I thought you were waiting for your recall to Airnet.

You do know that the career progression for a Lear captain from there is to go to a regional to get 121 time so he can get hired somewhere else.

You think? I sure don't. Seems kinda backwards when one could have just gone to the regional to get the 121 time to begin with.

...what is "121 time" anyway? I don't see a "121" column in my logbook.

I'll take another straight winged citation job or a swept wing citation job part 91.

There are very few 121 air carriers I'm interested in. But you guys enjoy.

-mini

Golden Bear 10-21-2010 08:31 AM

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Utah 10-21-2010 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by minitour (Post 888058)
You think? I sure don't. Seems kinda backwards when one could have just gone to the regional to get the 121 time to begin with.

...what is "121 time" anyway? I don't see a "121" column in my logbook.

I'll take another straight winged citation job or a swept wing citation job part 91.

There are very few 121 air carriers I'm interested in. But you guys enjoy.

-mini

Then what are you doing on the regional forum?

blizzue 10-21-2010 08:58 AM

Fishing, I suppose. :)

Moonwolf 10-21-2010 09:02 AM

whats up with the vip tfr over San Fran?

rickair7777 10-21-2010 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 888049)
I know what are they thinking..


Living in domicile, flying locals 3 -4 days a week, showing up at the airport at 8:00 am and off by 4:30. Home every night for dinner with the family, off every weekend, holiday and special occassion. And all for the measely sum of a $120K+ a year. (If they only work three days a week they'll only make 110K so they'll have to throw another local in there once a month to hit $120K) The fools.

They could have chased a job in a Boeing, commuted to reserve half way across the country, then held a line or maybe got a transfer somewhere closer. If they timed it right they'd have only spent maybe have of the last decade furloughed. Of course their crystal ball told them not to go to Eastern, Braniff, ATA, TWA, Midwest, and a long list of other places. Perhaps they should gone to Usair or American 15-20 years ago. Maybe they might be a junior captain on a narrowbody. More money? Sure. Better schedule? NO. Nore than likely, they'd still be in the right seat.

Yep, they should have left for United or TWA back around 2000-2001. They'd have been much better off. Way more time with the family.

Obviously, they won't have the luck that you will in your career. You'll have your choice of which Legacy or Cargo company you'll go to. You'll have quick movement on the seniority list, a quick upgrade to a widebody - as a captain of course, never be furloughed, with great pay and benefits, all in a domicile in your home city.

Of course were not talking about a lot pilots here at SkyWest. We'll retire less than 50 out of 2700+ in the next 10 years.

All that's true, however...

The people who fit your description started before the advent of the RJ and never dreamed at the time that they would make $100K+ at SKW. Their dreams mostly involved getting PIC and moving on, I doubt that very many planned on doing 6-8 leg days in a small turboprop for the next 40 years.

Their circumstances improved dramatically due to unforseen events...basically they got lucky. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not wise to rely on luck, except for the kind you make yourself.

The vast majority of the SKW pilot group will not have the same opportunities and circumstances that the current 20-year guys have. The regional industry has changed dramatically, and can and will do so again...and probably not in a good way.

Also SKW does not have fixed contracts for the next 40 years...if everybody stays put they will max out the payscale and SKW will have trouble competing for new and renewal business. Need more details on that? Check the dictionary under "COMAIR". Regionals have a finite lifecycle...

The best those guys can probably hope for long-term is that SKW goes branded...and somehow succeeds where so many others have failed. Credit where credit is due...those guys are pretty smart, if anyone can do it they can. But if they get forced into hail-mary branded flying due to cancelled feed contracts, I would not be optimistic.

RJDio 10-21-2010 03:45 PM

Well said Rick
The reality is most guys now will see those schedules and QOL 20 years from now when they are getting ready to retire. The top 5% got lucky. Unless skywest goes branded we are headed to be the next eagle, comair or maybe ACA. I think I would take my chances at a major like delta, southwest, American, and even the new united any day of the week. But that is just me.

gearcrankr 10-21-2010 05:56 PM

Anybody heard of a possible MSP base upcoming at SKW? What are the domiciles currently?

Hemet 10-22-2010 08:50 AM

hemet
 

Originally Posted by minitour (Post 887724)
If you really want to bang your head for a while, call up the folks at Delta AirElite (or Delta Private Jets or Segrave or Delta Business Jets....whatever it is this week). They like typed and current, but there's quite a few beechjets on the certificate. I think there's a few Hawker 800s too.

Not the place to stay forever, but it's a place until you find something better (which won't be hard).

-mini

Thank you very much, I'll look into it. Have you heard of any training company that can guarantee you job upon completion of training. How about CAE!!! A320 typerating.

Terrain Inop 10-22-2010 09:26 AM

70/30 for MSP base
60/40 for IAH base

flyandive 10-22-2010 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 888100)
whats up with the vip tfr over San Fran?

Obama visiting, campaigning for the dems.


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