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Jughead 11-04-2010 01:28 PM

Gulfstream Chapter 11
 
Gulfstream International files for Chapter 11

On Thursday November 4, 2010, 4:51 pm
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- Gulfstream International Group Inc., which operates a regional feeder airline and an aviation training school, said on Thursday that it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
The company said its flights would continue as scheduled. It operates 23 Beech propeller planes that carry 19 passengers. The flights generally connect smaller towns to larger airports, many of them for United Continental Holdings Inc.
Gulfstream said the filing was prompted by borrowing in recent years "to cope with consistently high fuel costs and the economic impact of declining traffic," which made it difficult to pay its debts. CEO David Hackett said in a prepared statement that it has received "strong interest from a number of investment sources" but they all wanted the company to restructure its debt before they invest.
In June 2009 the Federal Aviation Administration said it would seek a $1.3 million civil penalty against Gulfstream's airline, saying it violated regulations on how many hours pilots and dispatchers can work, and improperly maintained equipment.
The airline said at the time that the problem was confusing records and not broken rules. It settled with the FAA for $550,000 in July. Gulfstream spokesman Bruce Hicks said the fine was not a factor in the bankruptcy filing.
Gulfstream also came under scrutiny last year because the pilot of a Colgan Air flight that crashed into a house in Buffalo in February 2009 had trained at Gulfstream's academy and flown for Gulfstream's airline before joining Colgan.
The bankruptcy filing in the Southern District of Florida covers the parent company as well as the airline and Gulfstream Training Academy Inc. The company said it employs about 600 people, and does not expect any layoffs because of the filing.
Gulfstream shares lost most of their remaining value after the bankruptcy filing. After closing on Wednesday at 55 cents, they fell 39 cents to close at 16 cents.

allaboutthegirt 11-04-2010 04:10 PM

Guess the FO's aren't paying enough for training!

FlyJSH 11-04-2010 05:01 PM

What a shame :rolleyes:

hockeypilot44 11-04-2010 05:59 PM

This is one company that no respected pilot will shed a tear for if it liquidates.

Senior Skipper 11-04-2010 06:17 PM

Cry me a river...

I guess this means a tuition hike next semester?:rolleyes:

block30 11-04-2010 06:46 PM

Those a-holes can't make an airline run when they are getting paid by their employees??!!!

Let them hang!! Oh I can go to sleep happy tonight !!! Ha!!!

iahflyr 11-05-2010 06:08 AM

It just says they will be restructuring their debt. I don't think they are going anywhere.

I have a major beef when other pilots want to put other pilots out of work. I've never understood all the hatred.

rickair7777 11-05-2010 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 896460)

I have a major beef when other pilots want to put other pilots out of work. I've never understood all the hatred.

Out of work??? Half of them are PAYING to fly those airplanes...that's not "work".

baronguy18 11-05-2010 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 896488)
Out of work??? Half of them are PAYING to fly those airplanes...that's not "work".

Theres actually only 9.

FlyingV 11-05-2010 08:14 AM

Hey, no hatred to the pilots! Especially since I'm a former Beech driver. But I'm not gonna lose any sleep over this either. Employees paying for work is total BS.

ToiletDuck 11-05-2010 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by allaboutthegirt (Post 896192)
Guess the FO's aren't paying enough for training!

I think the price of car parts all the sudden climbed dramatically

capto 11-05-2010 09:12 AM

ooo omg hold on I have to shead some tears for them, o the grief truly sad,,, nottttt :D

newarkblows 11-05-2010 06:03 PM

Somebody is going to buy them up.

grdprox 11-05-2010 06:19 PM

Wow! I was wondering what their game plan was now considering the 1500 hr rule. So where do they go from here?

GearMover 11-05-2010 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 896851)
Somebody is going to buy them up.


Bad maint. bad record keeping, FAA fines, overworking/underpaying employees. Wow a Mesa merger wouldnt take to much work out!

Senior Skipper 11-05-2010 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingV (Post 896549)
...Employees paying for work is total BS.

Actually, it's not BS, it's an oxymoron.

oxymoron |ˌäksəˈmôrˌän|
noun
a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction


That place can't close fast enough. I'd be happy to see them go under.

AxialFlow 11-06-2010 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingV (Post 896549)
Especially since I'm a former Beech driver.

and part of an elite community with a few million other beech drivers ;)

Gulfstream is a boil on the ass of this industry!

nanceystyles 11-08-2010 07:25 AM

Gulfstream is the lowest form of airline "academy" out there. Don't let this company fool you. It's an academy disguised as an airline. There "pilots" pay essentially three years of salary to fly for this dump. This place needs to crumble and burn! I'm on a hiring board and every time we received an application with gulfstream on it we would quickly throw it in the garbage where it belonged. The last three airline crashes had one thing in common. The captain went through gulfstream. Gulfstream keeps this industry in the dumps! Good riddance!

andy171773 11-08-2010 07:31 AM

Here's to hoping for Ch. 7

Good riddance

Zapata 11-08-2010 10:46 AM

I don't like Gulfstream as much as the next guy. However, lets not forget. The pay-per-viewers are FO's. There are Captains there whom were hired off the street that actually got their job at Gulfstream without having to pay. At least this was the case just a few years ago.

Yeah sure, they might not have made the best choice in a regional airline. However, the Captain pay is better than Great Lakes or CummutAir.

FlyJSH 11-08-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 898011)
I don't like Gulfstream as much as the next guy. However, lets not forget. The pay-per-viewers are FO's. There are Captains there whom were hired off the street that actually got their job at Gulfstream without having to pay. At least this was the case just a few years ago.

Yeah sure, they might not have made the best choice in a regional airline. However, the Captain pay is better than Great Lakes or CummutAir.



Working for a Gulfstream is acceptance of PFJ/PFT.

gearcrankr 11-08-2010 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 898138)
Working for a Gulfstream is acceptance of PFJ/PFT.


The first symptom of SJS.

Zapata 11-08-2010 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 898138)
Working for a Gulfstream is acceptance of PFJ/PFT.

Working for an airline is acceptance of bean counters running airlines. How far are you going to take it?

FlyJSH 11-09-2010 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by gearcrankr (Post 898220)
The first symptom of SJS.

No, GMS (green money syndrome).

Well, actually I do have a bit of SAPUS (shiny APU syndrome), but flying a SAAB in Texas, during the summer will do that to you. ;)

BeaglePilot 11-09-2010 12:33 PM

Say what you want about gulfstream, but SWA has hired MANY captains from there.

B727DRVR 11-09-2010 06:51 PM

PFJ/PFT Twice?!?!
 
:(
So that means that they had to pay for a B737 type too??!?

SWA = great people, great company, but the B737 type requirement, even if they'll interview you w/o it, sucks IMO. Justify it if you will, but that is something that I hope dies with the Airtran merger.

OK, fire away...


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