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heading180 11-29-2010 07:34 AM

ASA and AirlineApps
 
Did anyone receive an email this morning regarding a new addendum to be filled out for ASA. Reason for asking is I am wondering if this email is bulk to all individuals with whom have an addendum filled out with ASA or are they finally looking at my app? .. hahaha

Captain Tony 11-29-2010 08:19 AM

What's the new addendum?

FSUpilot 11-29-2010 08:24 AM

seems to be the same addendum they've had for a few weeks now. I know they changed it not too long ago. I updated all the info when the change came out and I haven't gotten any emails. You may be in luck... maybe they are looking at your app.

Captain Tony 11-29-2010 08:26 AM

I find it humorous that little ASA is fooling around with AirlineApps. They could just do it the way they've done it for 25 years instead of wasting everyone's time with that ridiculously burdensome and mysterious "system". It's not like they're hiring hundreds of pilots a year!

gearcrankr 11-29-2010 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 908417)
I find it humorous that little ASA is fooling around with AirlineApps. They could just do it the way they've done it for 25 years instead of wasting everyone's time with that ridiculously burdensome and mysterious "system". It's not like they're hiring hundreds of pilots a year!

Bingo! Please lobby for the unemployed.

DL31082 11-29-2010 09:49 AM

I was just looking at the ASA addendum a couple of minutes ago. Nothing new that I can tell. They changed it about a month ago, but nothing since then. Hopefully I'll get a call sometime.

SuperPilotJesse 11-29-2010 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 908417)
I find it humorous that little ASA is fooling around with AirlineApps. They could just do it the way they've done it for 25 years instead of wasting everyone's time with that ridiculously burdensome and mysterious "system". It's not like they're hiring hundreds of pilots a year!

With a list of ~4000 isn't airline apps a good resource to use? Would you rather them learn how to use the system when they are hiring a class ever other month or when they really need to hire?

It makes sense to me.

YoDigity514 11-29-2010 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 908417)
I find it humorous that little ASA is fooling around with AirlineApps. They could just do it the way they've done it for 25 years instead of wasting everyone's time with that ridiculously burdensome and mysterious "system". It's not like they're hiring hundreds of pilots a year!

Buddy of mine just got hired there and said they want to hire something like 200 next year.

JetBlast77 11-29-2010 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by YoDigity514 (Post 908532)
Buddy of mine just got hired there and said they want to hire something like 200 next year.


Its actually close to 400 in 2011 from what I've been hearing.

ASAnotASAP 11-29-2010 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 908550)
Its actually close to 400 in 2011 from what I've been hearing.

I am now hearing 600-800.

heading180 11-29-2010 02:53 PM

Is DR still in the recruitment department?

AtlCSIP 11-29-2010 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by heading180 (Post 908588)
Is DR still in the recruitment department?

Last I heard, yes, but we don't know for how long. He came back out of retirement for this round of new hires!

Banshee365 11-29-2010 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by asanotasap (Post 908555)
i am now hearing 600-800.


1000-1200!!!!!!

Captain Tony 11-30-2010 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse (Post 908455)
With a list of ~4000 isn't airline apps a good resource to use? Would you rather them learn how to use the system when they are hiring a class ever other month or when they really need to hire? It makes sense to me.


Originally Posted by YoDigity514 (Post 908532)
Buddy of mine just got hired there and said they want to hire something like 200 next year.

It doesn't matter how many pilots are on the list! It matters how many are going to be hired. DAL probably has 10,000 applications on file at any given time, making it impossible to manually sort them. I seriously doubt ASA has that many.

Back in the late 90s/early 2000s we were hiring 300 a year and growing like a weed. AirlineApps existed (I think it was called UPASS then... TWA used it) but we didn't. The difference is that ASA would have to hire people in recruiting to pore over resumes/applications and conduct phone interviews. This used to be done by pilots. See where I'm going with this? Now, they're automating it, and passing the cost along to YOU by making you buy a membership. ASA acting like a big shot.

Captain Tony 11-30-2010 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 908550)
Its actually close to 400 in 2011 from what I've been hearing.

Maybe. But I'd bet it's more like 200-300. Our VP Flight ops sent a memo that staffing is where they want it to be through the early Spring. There is a lot of uncertainty with the XJT merger and they're not sure what our summer utilization will be yet. You have to understand something about ASA... they are NEVER proactive.


Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP (Post 908555)
I am now hearing 600-800.


Originally Posted by Banshee365 (Post 908752)
1000-1200!!!!!!

Total BS. There won't be that kind of movement until retirement age kicks back in (2012).

gtechpilot 11-30-2010 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 908550)
Its actually close to 400 in 2011 from what I've been hearing.


Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP (Post 908555)
I am now hearing 600-800.


Originally Posted by Banshee365 (Post 908752)
1000-1200!!!!!!

It will be one million new hires!!! Muhahahahahah! :D

Truman_Sparks 11-30-2010 05:53 AM

New hires for WHAT FLYING?????? There is NO WAY there will be any growth in 2011! With some attrition I hardly see the need for 400 hires! We are fat now at ASA, considering over 30% on reserve and nobody on reserve breaking guarantee any more.

Trip7 11-30-2010 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks (Post 908848)
New hires for WHAT FLYING?????? There is NO WAY there will be any growth in 2011! With some attrition I hardly see the need for 400 hires! We are fat now at ASA, considering over 30% on reserve and nobody on reserve breaking guarantee any more.

LOL! "NO WAY!"

I wouldn't be so sure about that bro.

Also, 30% are on reserve in ATL because many of the lines went to the IAD base due to the UAL scheduling now 2 months in a row mix up. If you want some extra cash with out working the insane amounts of hours to break guarantee on reserve, volunteer for TDY to IAD!

With PBS coming that reserve coverage is going to go down to around 10%

AtlCSIP 11-30-2010 06:54 AM

As of today, 11/30, 12 of the 27 on todays reserve list have over 75 hours for the month, and there is quite a bit of open time for December.

Also, we are losing 7 to 10 per month due to attrition. I went up 7 numbers last month.

Tony, DR told me that he had 4000 applications to go through 6 weeks ago. That's not enough to use Airline Apps?

heading180 11-30-2010 11:04 AM

yep, they are looking. I got both an email and phone call today from Recruiting for an interview.

YoDigity514 11-30-2010 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP (Post 908555)
I am now hearing 600-800.

I heard it was like 1200-1400. Wait, make that 1300-1500.:)

JetBlast77 11-30-2010 04:54 PM

Come on people, XJT is waaaay understaffed. Its all ASA now, meaning new hires could go to either side. XJT has nearly double the flying that ASA has and we are grossly understaffed. New hires will have to be brought in for that side alone. As far as the ASA side, I dunno....

AtlCSIP 11-30-2010 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by heading180 (Post 909089)
yep, they are looking. I got both an email and phone call today from Recruiting for an interview.

Good Deal! Tell us when your interview is and how it goes!


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