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DudLife 03-26-2010 10:14 AM

I saw Pacific Wings and had to jump at the chance to let people know what its really like.

Now to start this was 4 years ago now about, so there may be many changes (but from what I have heard....not so much)
They did say that as an SIC you do ramp/ticketing/phone calls and all that stuff, but also was told that you were allowed to fly on your day off and it was no problem getting 100hrs a month! (which was the whole reason I went here....to avoid the instruction route)
After I moved out to Maui I found out very quick how different it really was, you were only scheduled for 1 day of flying per week and the other 4 were desk days. You had to come in on your day off if you wanted to fly which all the SIC pilots set up a sort of schedule to allow everyone to share the EXTRA flying.
There were many days that our management/er would come in look at someone and say "go home, I dont like your attitude" "certain people were not allowed to fly under this managers personal demands. To sum it up it was largely broken promises.
On top of it all at the time I was bringing home about 1050$, with a bedroom rent of 550$ a month that left me with 500$ a month to live!
I loved living in Maui, it was one of the most fun times in my life, but as far as moving forward with an airline career DO NOT DO IT!

Again, it may have changed since then, and as a captain you didnt have to deal with any of what I stated above. But if you want a good work environment and to further your career look elsewhere.

-Cheers_

TheBills 03-26-2010 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by DudLife (Post 784322)
I saw Pacific Wings and had to jump at the chance to let people know what its really like.

Now to start this was 4 years ago now about, so there may be many changes (but from what I have heard....not so much)
They did say that as an SIC you do ramp/ticketing/phone calls and all that stuff, but also was told that you were allowed to fly on your day off and it was no problem getting 100hrs a month! (which was the whole reason I went here....to avoid the instruction route)
After I moved out to Maui I found out very quick how different it really was, you were only scheduled for 1 day of flying per week and the other 4 were desk days. You had to come in on your day off if you wanted to fly which all the SIC pilots set up a sort of schedule to allow everyone to share the EXTRA flying.
There were many days that our management/er would come in look at someone and say "go home, I dont like your attitude" "certain people were not allowed to fly under this managers personal demands. To sum it up it was largely broken promises.
On top of it all at the time I was bringing home about 1050$, with a bedroom rent of 550$ a month that left me with 500$ a month to live!
I loved living in Maui, it was one of the most fun times in my life, but as far as moving forward with an airline career DO NOT DO IT!

Again, it may have changed since then, and as a captain you didnt have to deal with any of what I stated above. But if you want a good work environment and to further your career look elsewhere.

-Cheers_

Here is what I saw with my own eyes at this company that P56 says is not that bad:

-5 days on 2 off (your 5th day as a junior pilot is overnight so you come home on your day off)

-The chief pilot can delegate his duties to you on your days off. So you are expected to volunteer your time. This means you will either, wash planes, market the airline by calling local businesses etc., make spread sheets for schedules etc. If you say no to any of the duties, it is remembered by the company for a later time, you know... that time when you dont want to fly in severe icing.

-Mx does in fact pencil whip MX inspections. Luckily the FAA gives them notice when they show up so they can fix the obvious mistakes.

-Overnights consist of sleeping on couches in the crew lounges at the airports that dont want you there because the company does not buy fuel from them.

Good luck to anybody that works here. Its a dump. Im not lying about any of this either.

xtownboy 10-08-2012 09:53 AM

Just received an email from this company wanting to setup an interview. Anybody have any new or current info on this company? Or is it still that bad?
Not sure if it matters but it was for a left seat position in a 208B
Thanks

PerpetualFlyer 10-08-2012 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by xtownboy (Post 1273495)
Just received an email from this company wanting to setup an interview. Anybody have any new or current info on this company? Or is it still that bad?
Not sure if it matters but it was for a left seat position in a 208B
Thanks

Run, don't walk, run away from this **** poor excuse for an employer. You'll be glad you did. This place will rip out your soul and then try to feed it to you. Just don't.

xtownboy 10-08-2012 11:07 AM

Wow that bad huh? Thanks for the warning.

FSUpilot 10-09-2012 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by xtownboy (Post 1273539)
Wow that bad huh? Thanks for the warning.

yep... its that bad. I was there. In the 18 months I flew the van they fired at least 30 pilots. For things like trying to form a union, writing up something, or not flying through ice without boots.... Our seniority list was only 40-50 pilots or so. This was when nobody was hiring and they could get anyone they wanted.

Read TheBills post 2 or 3 replies above... thats exactly it in a nutshell. Nothing there has changed except for the fact they are flying LESS EAS routes. Also.. google them. Youll find all kinds of interesting news articles on how they conduct business.

hockeypilot44 10-09-2012 08:19 AM

That's almost slave labor. Why would anyone put himself through that?

xtownboy 10-09-2012 01:13 PM

Thanks for the info, I was curious if that was old info but anybody that has anything to say about them, its just bad all around. I did not respond to the email and don't plan on it.

PerpetualFlyer 10-09-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by xtownboy (Post 1274149)
Thanks for the info, I was curious if that was old info but anybody that has anything to say about them, its just bad all around. I did not respond to the email and don't plan on it.

You should respond with a link to this thread.

DirectTo 10-09-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1274161)
You should respond with a link to this thread.

Unfortunately you could include this thread as an attachment to their application and they would still have people lining up to fly for them for that "invaluable airline experience".


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