Shuttle America - Kindle Users
04-25-2011, 04:08 PM
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Shuttle America - Kindle Users
For those of you that use the Kindle instead of lugging around the GOM and the POH, I am curious how you normally bookmark both books on the Kindle.
Do you bookmark each section, or only the parts you reference the most?
There must be a better way than clicking on the next page button 50 times to get to a page in the middle of, say, section 4 in the POH. Seems to be that it takes a while to first look in the table of contents and then find the correct bookmark you are looking for, and then clicking next 50 times.
I see the benefit being reduced weight, but I would never flip through a reference manual page by page to get to where I want. Is there a better way to bookmark these manuals on the Kindle?
Thanks!
Do you bookmark each section, or only the parts you reference the most?
There must be a better way than clicking on the next page button 50 times to get to a page in the middle of, say, section 4 in the POH. Seems to be that it takes a while to first look in the table of contents and then find the correct bookmark you are looking for, and then clicking next 50 times.
I see the benefit being reduced weight, but I would never flip through a reference manual page by page to get to where I want. Is there a better way to bookmark these manuals on the Kindle?
Thanks!
04-25-2011, 06:55 PM
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Are you talking about keeping (all) them on there for convenience and also having your paper versions for legality? I haven't heard of any carrier getting kindles or iPads approved yet. There are some approved EFB's but it's my understanding that those are standalone and very basic in only holding charts and manuals. Just curious!!
As far as PDF's- you can separate things within adobe and save the file with bookmarks/chapters prior to a sync to a device.
As far as PDF's- you can separate things within adobe and save the file with bookmarks/chapters prior to a sync to a device.
04-25-2011, 08:39 PM
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Yes, Shuttle is "Approved" for pilots to carry the Kindle instead of the paper GOM and POH.
I've heard that some airlines are approved to use the Ipad now, but I know Republic Airways' stance is that they eventually want to go to a tablet like the ipad, but apparently it costs quite a bit to restrict a tablet from utilizing any type of app while in flight.
EFB's are being installed in all Shuttle aircraft as they come in for Heavy Checks. Eventually I am sure everything will be on the EFB's, but in the meantime the Kindle is an strictly volunteer option.
FlyandDive: What are you doing out this way? Training is done. On IOE now.
I've heard that some airlines are approved to use the Ipad now, but I know Republic Airways' stance is that they eventually want to go to a tablet like the ipad, but apparently it costs quite a bit to restrict a tablet from utilizing any type of app while in flight.
EFB's are being installed in all Shuttle aircraft as they come in for Heavy Checks. Eventually I am sure everything will be on the EFB's, but in the meantime the Kindle is an strictly volunteer option.
FlyandDive: What are you doing out this way? Training is done. On IOE now.
04-25-2011, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85
Are you talking about keeping (all) them on there for convenience and also having your paper versions for legality? I haven't heard of any carrier getting kindles or iPads approved yet. There are some approved EFB's but it's my understanding that those are standalone and very basic in only holding charts and manuals. Just curious!!
As far as PDF's- you can separate things within adobe and save the file with bookmarks/chapters prior to a sync to a device.
As far as PDF's- you can separate things within adobe and save the file with bookmarks/chapters prior to a sync to a device.
04-26-2011, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Yes, Shuttle is "Approved" for pilots to carry the Kindle instead of the paper GOM and POH.
I've heard that some airlines are approved to use the Ipad now, but I know Republic Airways' stance is that they eventually want to go to a tablet like the ipad, but apparently it costs quite a bit to restrict a tablet from utilizing any type of app while in flight.
EFB's are being installed in all Shuttle aircraft as they come in for Heavy Checks. Eventually I am sure everything will be on the EFB's, but in the meantime the Kindle is an strictly volunteer option.
FlyandDive: What are you doing out this way? Training is done. On IOE now.
I've heard that some airlines are approved to use the Ipad now, but I know Republic Airways' stance is that they eventually want to go to a tablet like the ipad, but apparently it costs quite a bit to restrict a tablet from utilizing any type of app while in flight.
EFB's are being installed in all Shuttle aircraft as they come in for Heavy Checks. Eventually I am sure everything will be on the EFB's, but in the meantime the Kindle is an strictly volunteer option.
FlyandDive: What are you doing out this way? Training is done. On IOE now.
04-26-2011, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
I've heard that some airlines are approved to use the Ipad now, but I know Republic Airways' stance is that they eventually want to go to a tablet like the ipad, but apparently it costs quite a bit to restrict a tablet from utilizing any type of app while in flight
I know, I know, this is asking wayyyyyy too much from from the FAA and airline management.
And I surely hope I am not making a mistaken assumption by classifying pilots in the group of people called "mature, responsible adults".
04-26-2011, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JDFlyer
Why doesn't Republic and the FAA take the position that mature, responsible adults are in command of the aircraft and as mature, responsible pilots we trust that they will not be playing video games while at their duty stations and actively responsible for a multi-million dollar aircraft, the lives of the passengers in the back, and the possible future livelihood of every other Republic employee.
A mentor once told me: As long as you keep in mind that you are reading in the cockpit, not sitting in a flying library, you should be okay.
04-26-2011, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
Are you talking about keeping (all) them on there for convenience and also having your paper versions for legality?
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