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Shaftoe 01-08-2011 05:01 PM

For the Skywest pilots who refused CO flight
 
Thank you! I am an ExpressJet Captain and everyone I talk to is impressed and thankful. this includes mainline CAL and even Delta. Being non union, you guys really took a big chance. I am sure you will have no problems getting recommendations for future employment. Your actions of unity express the mentality and grit that is so needed in every single one of us. My hope is that the rest of your pilot group agrees and helps us turn this mess around. As a fellow regional pilot, I have no desire for my company to utilize larger aircraft. My preference would be for the majors to increase fleet size, hire the necessary pilots (us), and stop outsourcing to a lesser pay group to the future planned degree. No flames please, this is an over simplyfied version of my opinion. My goal on this post is simply gratitude for the pilots.

gettinbumped 01-08-2011 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Shaftoe (Post 926988)
Thank you! I am an ExpressJet Captain and everyone I talk to is impressed and thankful. this includes mainline CAL and even Delta. Being non union, you guys really took a big chance. I am sure you will have no problems getting recommendations for future employment. Your actions of unity express the mentality and grit that is so needed in every single one of us. My hope is that the rest of your pilot group agrees and helps us turn this mess around. As a fellow regional pilot, I have no desire for my company to utilize larger aircraft. My preference would be for the majors to increase fleet size, hire the necessary pilots (us), and stop outsourcing to a lesser pay group to the future planned degree. No flames please, this is an over simplyfied version of my opinion. My goal on this post is simply gratitude for the pilots.

My most sincere thanks as well. I'm impressed beyond all bounds. That being said, a little research turned up a slightly different story than what I read on the board here... I wondering if someone from Skywest can put a definitive answer on this.

It APPEARED to the person who went in and tracked this online For me (Skywest employee), that the flight did not cancel, but went out several hours late due to a "crew disruption". Another Captain was flown in and the flight appeared to have departed with someone else at the helm....which is unfortunate. No mention of an FO being DH'ed in. So do the accolades belong to the Captain, or did the FO stick by him as well? These details will be quite important going forward. I'm pretty sure the Captain (and the FO if he stuck with it) will have about 12,000 letters of recommendation for a job at the new United. If/when I find out who he/she/they are, I'm going to write one for sure.

Kudos. I mean BIG kudos. We, all the pilots in the industry, salute you

odog1121 01-08-2011 08:15 PM

The union doesn't actually do the hiring right? It might not look good to HR to have insubordination as the reason for being fired.

Salukipilot4590 01-08-2011 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by odog1121 (Post 927089)
The union doesn't actually do the hiring right? It might not look good to HR to have insubordination as the reason for being fired.

Well isn't there a captain panel?


I mean not that they would make it that far but still...

contrails 01-08-2011 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by odog1121 (Post 927089)
The union doesn't actually do the hiring right? It might not look good to HR to have insubordination as the reason for being fired.

The question then is, if the employer is attempting to have them violate a legal document, what does the employee do?

What makes a contract and decision by an arbitrator any different than any page out of FAR 121?

Even if it had been a unionized crew it's not the type of thing where you can say, "fly now, grieve later" when the very obvious, clear-cut decision came out a few days prior.

FANS cripple 01-08-2011 09:07 PM

Anyone care to share the story?

newarkblows 01-09-2011 06:04 AM

At least you know this guy is willing to make a tough decision and that he has morals he is willing to stand by. He saw something happening that wasnt supposed to be and just said he wouldnt be apart of it until it was fixed. I know management will throw him under the bus but in this instance he just gained the respect of a lot of powerful people. His/her actions took guts.

Flitestar 01-09-2011 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by FANS cripple (Post 927108)
Anyone care to share the story?

Agreed.
What's the whole story?

TonyWilliams 01-09-2011 08:14 AM

I don't know any of this story, but if a captain gets fired for refusing legal, safe work, no airline (in the US) will hire him.

JayHub 01-09-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by fans cripple (Post 927108)
anyone care to share the story?

+1............


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