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Old 02-19-2015, 11:08 AM
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Anyone work for these folks? I keep seeing their add on the orange site. Left seat is $50K a year and $45/hour over your 65 guarantee to fly a 208 or PA31. That is a lot of money to fly either of those.
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:21 AM
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50k to fly almost the same plane as cape air? seems too good to be true
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:25 AM
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I agree and it is $50K plus. I am sure there is down side to the company as with any of them but that is very good money for the left seat of a PA31 or a 208. No pay during training and it looks like you pay for your own place to stay so there is a red flag right off. But if you gut it out till you are on the line.....

Plus you would be building time toward the 1000135/121/91 rule if I am not mistaken unless PIC doesn't count as SIC under that rule.
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:31 AM
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Sun Air Express' passenger bookings are handled by Pacific Wings and their flight listings in travel reservation systems are under Pacific Wings' IATA code, LW.

Anything to do with PW should be a warning.

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Never heard of PW but good to know, will do a bit of looking. Thanks for the productive input.
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I've heard some bad stuff about this place... Definitely a "bottom feeder". At a time when applicants almost have their pick of regionals and even some 135 ops to work at, why go to a place like this?
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Just a quick browse of this board shows that nearly all regionals are "bottom feeders" so why not go for the one that pays 3 times as much first year and puts you in the left seat rather than the right? The real downfall I see is that it is a piston twin or a turbine single but Cape Air pilots have had no trouble moving on I am sure. I am not planning to leave where I am anytime in the near future I was just trying to get some info on a company that is paying so much for the equipment they are flying.

Now if you had to go in as an SIC that is a completely different story.
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Originally Posted by Duksrule View Post
Just a quick browse of this board shows that nearly all regionals are "bottom feeders" so why not go for the one that pays 3 times as much first year and puts you in the left seat rather than the right? The real downfall I see is that it is a piston twin or a turbine single but Cape Air pilots have had no trouble moving on I am sure. I am not planning to leave where I am anytime in the near future I was just trying to get some info on a company that is paying so much for the equipment they are flying.

Now if you had to go in as an SIC that is a completely different story.
Because ultimately, you'll be hard pressed to ever make more than 50K flying a multi piston. You need multi turbine time (SIC and obviously PIC is even better) to get better paying jobs. I didn't make the rules, I just play the game. It really isn't rocket science. I could of stayed at my last job making way more than I do at a regional, but ultimately there is a ceiling on income flying piston aircraft. And if you go to a regional that doesn't have you sitting in the right seat for 5+ years, then you can make way more than 50K as a Captain after 2 or 3 years.

And as far as Cape Air, they have an agreement with Jet Blue (I think) so thats a bit different. I challenge you to find more than a COUPLE of pilots who have gone from flying multi pistons to the right seat of a boeing or airbus. Keep dreaming!
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I would venture to say that there are WAAAY more than a just a few ex piston twin guys, whether from Cape Air or one of several piston freight operators that went straight to something other than another regional without any turbine PIC.
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But without ANY turbine time?

Sounds like your mind is made up... Best of luck in your career.
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