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Convairator 02-17-2011 11:01 AM

Which regionals affected by EAS cuts?
 
I was curious to know which regionals are flying EAS routes, and who will be affected the most assuming the legislation goes all the way through and the program is terminated.

Are there not still a few, very small companies that depend on these routes to keep their a/c flying?

Former WV Senator Byrd has to be turning over in his grave.

GOP bill would cancel rural air service subsidies
(AP) – 1 day ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Subsidies for air service to small airports, often in remote communities, would be nearly eliminated and spending on aviation programs scaled back under a bill approved Wednesday by a House committee.
The Transportation and Infrastructure Committee voted 34-25, mostly along party lines, for a Republican-authored bill that establishes and renews Federal Aviation Administration programs through Sept. 30, 2014.
The bill would eliminate most of the $200 million essential air service program, which pays airlines to provide scheduled service to 155 communities. The bill would phase out the program in the lower 48 states by 2013. After that, only subsidies for service to airports in Alaska would be continued.
In the Senate, Arizona Republican John McCain has proposed eliminating the program, calling it a test of lawmakers' commitment to cut government spending.
The program was created to ensure that less-profitable routes to small airports wouldn't be eliminated when airline service was deregulated in 1978. But critics say the airports often serve too few people to merit the subsidies.
Subsidies per airline passenger range as high as $5,223 in Ely, Nev., to as low as $9.21 in Thief River Falls, Minn., according to Transportation Department data for the lower 48 states as of June.
A 2009 Government Accountability report said demographic shifts were also decreasing the population of some communities served by the program. The report said that on average just over a third of the seats were filled on subsidized flights. For commercial flights nationwide, the average was about 80 percent.
Lawmakers from rural districts say scheduled airline service is critical to the ability of rural communities to attract and retain businesses that generate jobs.
The subsidy program "is a vital lifeline between rural communities and the global network of commerce," Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., the committee's top Democrat, said in a statement.
"Small and rural communities have grown up around (the program), which directly supports local jobs," Rahall said.
The bill would also roll back annual FAA spending to $14.7 billion for each of the next three years — the same level as 2008 — in keeping with GOP promises to shrink government. But the FAA budget had been expected to grow substantially since the agency is in the midst of a major effort to modernize the nation's air traffic control system, moving from World War II-era technology to a satellite-based system.
The new GPS system is needed so that planes can fly more precise routes, saving time and fuel and reducing greenhouse gas emissions, aviation officials have said. It is also necessary to help accommodate anticipated growth in air travel, they said. FAA's latest air travel forecast, released this week, predicts air travel will increase from about 700 million passenger trips a year now to over 1 billion trips by 2021.
Democrats predicted the spending decreases will lead to cutbacks and cancellations in the air traffic modernization program. FAA has estimated the program will cost the government as much as $22 billion through 2025. Airlines would have to spend as much as $20 billion more to install equipment in their planes.

andy171773 02-17-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Convairator (Post 949234)
I was curious to know which regionals are flying EAS routes, and who will be affected the most assuming the legislation goes all the way through and the program is terminated.

Are there not still a few, very small companies that depend on these routes to keep their a/c flying?

Former WV Senator Byrd has to be turning over in his grave.

GOP bill would cancel rural air service subsidies
(AP) – 1 day ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Subsidies for air service to small airports, often in remote communities, would be nearly eliminated and spending on aviation programs scaled back under a bill approved Wednesday by a House committee.
The Transportation and Infrastructure Committee voted 34-25, mostly along party lines, for a Republican-authored bill that establishes and renews Federal Aviation Administration programs through Sept. 30, 2014.
The bill would eliminate most of the $200 million essential air service program, which pays airlines to provide scheduled service to 155 communities. The bill would phase out the program in the lower 48 states by 2013. After that, only subsidies for service to airports in Alaska would be continued.
In the Senate, Arizona Republican John McCain has proposed eliminating the program, calling it a test of lawmakers' commitment to cut government spending.
The program was created to ensure that less-profitable routes to small airports wouldn't be eliminated when airline service was deregulated in 1978. But critics say the airports often serve too few people to merit the subsidies.
Subsidies per airline passenger range as high as $5,223 in Ely, Nev., to as low as $9.21 in Thief River Falls, Minn., according to Transportation Department data for the lower 48 states as of June.
A 2009 Government Accountability report said demographic shifts were also decreasing the population of some communities served by the program. The report said that on average just over a third of the seats were filled on subsidized flights. For commercial flights nationwide, the average was about 80 percent.
Lawmakers from rural districts say scheduled airline service is critical to the ability of rural communities to attract and retain businesses that generate jobs.
The subsidy program "is a vital lifeline between rural communities and the global network of commerce," Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., the committee's top Democrat, said in a statement.
"Small and rural communities have grown up around (the program), which directly supports local jobs," Rahall said.
The bill would also roll back annual FAA spending to $14.7 billion for each of the next three years — the same level as 2008 — in keeping with GOP promises to shrink government. But the FAA budget had been expected to grow substantially since the agency is in the midst of a major effort to modernize the nation's air traffic control system, moving from World War II-era technology to a satellite-based system.
The new GPS system is needed so that planes can fly more precise routes, saving time and fuel and reducing greenhouse gas emissions, aviation officials have said. It is also necessary to help accommodate anticipated growth in air travel, they said. FAA's latest air travel forecast, released this week, predicts air travel will increase from about 700 million passenger trips a year now to over 1 billion trips by 2021.
Democrats predicted the spending decreases will lead to cutbacks and cancellations in the air traffic modernization program. FAA has estimated the program will cost the government as much as $22 billion through 2025. Airlines would have to spend as much as $20 billion more to install equipment in their planes.

not sure who will be affected, but according to this...

Essential Air Service

...there are 140 airports currently subsidized by the DOT.

This wont be good for any regional, but I'd imagine the hardest hit will be Great Lakes, Cape Air, American Eagle, Skywest and Mesaba.

gojo 02-17-2011 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 949268)
not sure who will be affected, but according to this...

Essential Air Service

...there are 140 airports currently subsidized by the DOT.

This wont be good for any regional, but I'd imagine the hardest hit will be Great Lakes, Cape Air, American Eagle, Skywest and Mesaba.

Mesaba's has already been affected by Delta. We don't have too many left anymore

AV8R 02-17-2011 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 949268)
not sure who will be affected, but according to this...

Essential Air Service

...there are 140 airports currently subsidized by the DOT.

This wont be good for any regional, but I'd imagine the hardest hit will be Great Lakes, Cape Air, American Eagle, Skywest and Mesaba.

No Mesaba SAABs = no EAS. Maybe the new Mesaba with some of Colgan's EAS routes. You can stick a fork in Seaport Airlines. Gulfstream will take a hit.

andy171773 02-17-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by AV8R (Post 949280)
No Mesaba SAABs = no EAS. Maybe the new Mesaba with some of Colgan's EAS routes. You can stick a fork in Seaport Airlines. Gulfstream will take a hit.

I guess Mesa has quite a few in AZ, NM and the likes.

clearprop 02-17-2011 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 949278)
Mesaba's has already been affected by Delta. We don't have too many left anymore

definitely SkyWest. SeaPort too.

FSUpilot 02-17-2011 05:40 PM

they should pass this... knock out pacific wings..

3GreenKSNA 02-17-2011 05:58 PM

What EAS does Eagle do?

NightIP 02-17-2011 06:23 PM

Cape Air is going to get murdered by this. Really hope it doesn't pass; lots of good people will be out of jobs. Thankfully this has quite a ways to go until it actually gets passed.

andy171773 02-17-2011 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA (Post 949537)
What EAS does Eagle do?


Well for one, Joplin, MO is our newest.. I know there are more..that's just one I know off the top of my head.


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