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flysooner9 03-04-2011 09:03 PM

Who do i pick?
 
I live in the Oklahoma City area, living in base is not an option due to fiance. Im 21 so i figure if i went Eagle im assured the ATR.
Pinnacle class date of March 28th.
Eagle i will probably be looking at mid April.

I know ultimately i have to do what makes me the happiest but at this point i dont really know which one will.

slumav505 03-04-2011 09:16 PM

if all things are equal get in class sooner. 6 weeks is the difference between furlough, upgrade and getting stuck.

Also if Eagle ever gets sold it could be bad times. (but that's unlikely)

jheath 03-04-2011 09:46 PM

So if both are lousy commutes you've gotta ask yourself what's more important. You'll probably fly more on the ATR at Eagle vs more reserve on the jet at Pinnacle. So if building your time is still important you might think of that. Also, 90 hours of ATR time plus per diem is probably more dough than 75 hours of guarantee sitting reserve on a 200. Upgrade time is a crapshoot everywhere, but there may be an advantage on the prop. I have a friend flying the ATR out of SJU and he sure had a fun time posting beach pictures to facebook in the middle of a harsh winter up north. I find myself in a similar predicament. It's a good problem to have, but there are a lot of factors that make it harder than just a black and white decision. Pay, QOL...what's most important to you?

Flyby1206 03-05-2011 12:42 AM

7 flights a day on AA OKC-DFW, and the flight is only an hour long. You can easily get the ATR, and good chance of getting DFW based from Day 1. Even if you originally got SJU ATR you could transfer to DFW by the time you finish training.

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seafeye 03-05-2011 03:53 AM

Find another job. Meet a girl work a nine to five and be thankful that you aren't spending 200 days a year living out of a suitcase.

DL31082 03-05-2011 05:34 AM

If you come to Pinnacle you are probably going to be based in DTW. My class and the class before us all got DTW.

LoudFastRules 03-05-2011 06:14 AM

Building flight time will not be an issue at PCL. You'll fly plenty regardless of seniority. I believe reserves routinely break guarantee at PCL, but a current 9E guy could correct me if I'm wrong there.

With the new JCBA and the hiring required by it, you might not even be on reserve that long, anyway.

cessna157 03-05-2011 07:03 AM

Those are the only 2 choices?

What about ASA/ExpressJet? Seems like the best long-term move would be to go there

Banja 03-05-2011 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by cessna157 (Post 958414)
Those are the only 2 choices?

What about ASA/ExpressJet? Seems like the best long-term move would be to go there

I'm not too sure why anyone would care about "long-term" these days at a regional. I'd pick the one that has the best opportunities for upgrade and short-term QOL. That is, of course depending on whether or not you're planning on ending your career there. ;)

samballs 03-05-2011 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by cessna157 (Post 958414)
Those are the only 2 choices?

What about ASA/ExpressJet? Seems like the best long-term move would be to go there

You sure about that? you realize DL wants the 200's gone yesterday. All XJT has are erj's. I would say for the next 2 years XJT ASA is not a bad choice but after that I think they will have problems right along with Pinnacle

WstCstCmtr 03-05-2011 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by samballs (Post 958583)
You sure about that? you realize DL wants the 200's gone yesterday. All XJT has are erj's. I would say for the next 2 years XJT ASA is not a bad choice but after that I think they will have problems right along with Pinnacle

you're the one that thinks bubba is a pilot.

I see you have moved on to spreading cluelessness to other threads.

Spoilers 03-05-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by samballs (Post 958583)
You sure about that? you realize DL wants the 200's gone yesterday. All XJT has are erj's. I would say for the next 2 years XJT ASA is not a bad choice but after that I think they will have problems right along with Pinnacle

It's not a secret that 50 seat aircraft are inefficient and DL is not the only airline that wants to get rid of them. How many 50 seater's are there at Eagle? 200+!

flysooner9 03-05-2011 02:43 PM

after looking closely at pay scales i would be making 10,000 more a year as a third year FO at pinnacle then a third year FO on the ATR at Eagle

rickair7777 03-05-2011 02:57 PM

In would say Pinnacle, you will start sooner (as someone said, six weeks can be a lifetime on a seniority list). Also pinnacle has a better contract and probably as much growth opportunity as anyone. Eagle is up for sale...if there are no buyers they could go the way of COMAIR and the Dodo bird.

Boomer 03-05-2011 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Banja (Post 958565)
I'm not too sure why anyone would care about "long-term" these days at a regional. I'd pick the one that has the best opportunities for upgrade and short-term QOL. That is, of course depending on whether or not you're planning on ending your career there. ;)

If fuel hits $150/bbl and there's another round of mergers, you may find your regional to be your career airline.

This is the airlines - Planning has little to do with it.

Milk Man 03-05-2011 05:04 PM

I too am from OKC, at Colgan we will have about 4-5 flights a day on the Q. That means you will get priority on the jumpseat. And as far as I know, Im hardly there. Im 99.99% sure there is no other Colgan jumpseaters from OKC. And you could possibly be based in Houston. Something to think about when going to Pinncle or trying for Colgan. Pinnacle when the lists merge you maybe able to swap to Q and its only and hr and half commute.

mmaviator 03-05-2011 08:22 PM

You might get a quickie(upgrade) from the left one and the right one has no idea of a prepnup(contract) . I know I'm having a hard decision too!

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rightside02 03-06-2011 03:01 AM

I would say pinnacle . Newer contract plus once these captains get their retro check , I would say it would motivate some percentage of them to leave and move on to bigger better things. Plus with FedEx hiring soon I bet we will loose plenty of pilots to FedEx. There is a lot of FedEx slash pinnacle love pat on the back style buddy buddy , in Memphis . Which all in all moves your number up on the list . Plus most importantly . You ll be another soul below me !!!! ;). Lol


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