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Boomer 03-07-2011 03:59 PM

If you can interview later, great.

If the interview is right now, take-it-or-leave-it, go ahead and interview for the experience, and during the interview ask about class flexibility.

If you interview well, and if they need people, maybe they'll put you in a pool for after your honeymoon.

If it's a good company, they will appreciate you wanting to hold off until your personal stuff is squared away. If it's not a good company, no loss.

Just my opinion, of course.

Boomer 03-07-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 959821)
OR, you could use this as training for your prospective mate. there will be many missed birthdays, holidays, and even anniversaries. Might as well get used to it.

Or training for yourself - when you meet a senior captain with that week off, send him in your place.

thesweetlycool 03-07-2011 06:05 PM

The thing is that with this opportunity is one where I would not have to interview to get the job. All I will need to do is turn in my background check info and they will offer me a class date. I wish that I could take a class after all this is over, but I have to accept a date before April 25th or I dropped out of this program. So it's a tough choice.

I also know because of all these new airline hirings, the flight school I went to will be hiring flight instructors soon. If I am offered a job there, it will be much more flexible.

I understand that If I were to ever work for an airline this would be the life.. but im just not sure it's good timing right now. If they will give me a class date that is August, then great but im not sure I see that happening

usmc-sgt 03-07-2011 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by thesweetlycool (Post 959893)
I understand that If I were to ever work for an airline this would be the life.. but im just not sure it's good timing right now. If they will give me a class date that is August, then great but im not sure I see that happening

Although its difficult and you say that now, if you do end up at the same airline but at a later date you could quite possibly regret not taking the earlier date for MANY years, possibly your entire career.

There are pilots on their second major who are furloughed now who missed being furloughed by their first airline by a few weeks. At that same airline had they been hired by their regional (or other) a few months earlier they could have upgraded 2+ years faster and been at the major two years earlier and not only not been furloughed but could have been a Captain there.

A bit dramatic but very true. In a hiring boom the difference between being a top ten FO in base and a 2 year upgrade vs 3 years of reserve and a 4 year upgrade can be as little as three classes.


Take a class if you can get it and if you call in sick over a 5 day reserve stretch it would be up to 7 days off.

resetjet 03-07-2011 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 959907)
Although its difficult and you say that now, if you do end up at the same airline but at a later date you could quite possibly regret not taking the earlier date for MANY years, possibly your entire career.

There are pilots on their second major who are furloughed now who missed being furloughed by their first airline by a few weeks. At that same airline had they been hired by their regional (or other) a few months earlier they could have upgraded 2+ years faster and been at the major two years earlier and not only not been furloughed but could have been a Captain there.

A bit dramatic but very true. In a hiring boom the difference between being a top ten FO in base and a 2 year upgrade vs 3 years of reserve and a 4 year upgrade can be as little as three classes.


Take a class if you can get it and if you call in sick over a 5 day reserve stretch it would be up to 7 days off.

Very wise words!

freezingflyboy 03-07-2011 07:26 PM

Wheres the honeymoon too? I could buy you out of it if the price were right then you can reschedule with the misses when its convenient for you two! Sooo...wanna make a deal?;)

Ahhhh...I kid, I kid... Seriously though, good luck with THAT predicament. If it were me, I'd let the airline opportunity go for a month (there will be others, just watch) and then deal with it once you get your personal life taken care of. The way things are right now, you are probably gonna get rode hard and put away wet your first year and it WILL suck, for you and your new wife. It is a tough adjustment for most couples/families so you probably wanna make sure you and the wife can get off on the right foot.

I guess in the end you can't count on much in the airline industry, but the ONE THING you can ALWAYS count on in this business is this: If SHE ain't happy, YOU ain't happy! Works for flight attendants as well as wives.:D

PS
If worse comes to worse, if you have paid airline tickets, you should be able to get away with calling in sick and then using your paid tickets to get where you're going. The guys who get fouled up are the ones who try and non-rev/jumpseat when they are supposedly "sick". Whenever you non-rev/jumpseat, your company gets queried (CASS approvals, pass approvals, etc) and most match up the sick calls with the non-rev list.

TrojanCMH 03-07-2011 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 959821)
OR, you could use this as training for your prospective mate. there will be many missed birthdays, holidays, and even anniversaries. Might as well get used to it.

HAHAHA I hope this was sarcasm. If not, have you ever been with a woman before? Try telling any normal woman that you are canceling her wedding and honeymoon because of some garbage regional job and she will laugh in your face as she packs your bags and tells you to take a hike. This is only a ~25K job if you are here in the US...

Remember this is your wedding. Hopefully you won't have too many of them and it will be one of the few important days in your life. I've only worked at one airline but usually, like others have said, they will tell you to bid around it and then call someone in management if you don't get the time off. If you call the chief pilot, at my airline anyways, and tell him you have to be at your wedding / honeymoon he will work with you to get the time off. You may need to bend over and reshuffle your reserve days and work some long stretches but they are human and will understand. I've had a few things come up, family member's weddings, even minor stuff like family member graduations and they were always accommodating if you got past the regular entry level crew schedulers and talked to the chief pilot or one of the scheduling managers. Bid off the days you need and if you don't get the days you need call the CP and manager of scheduling and get them in the loop. We also can call in unavailable and it counts towards our attendance the same as a sick call and it's more to be used in situations like this. Keep them in the loop and tell them you won't be available on certain dates from the get go and if they fire you I don't think anyone doing the hiring at another airline is going to hold the fact that you went to your wedding against you... If your wedding happens to fall during training tell them and see what they say. I interviewed the week before my wedding and when they called to offer me the job they said that they would put me in a later class so I could go on my honeymoon and have some time to recuperate before I started.

topprospect16 03-07-2011 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 959802)
Comair gives new-hires a couple years off without pay.

Nice of them...

jumppilot 03-07-2011 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 959907)
Although its difficult and you say that now, if you do end up at the same airline but at a later date you could quite possibly regret not taking the earlier date for MANY years, possibly your entire career.

There are pilots on their second major who are furloughed now who missed being furloughed by their first airline by a few weeks. At that same airline had they been hired by their regional (or other) a few months earlier they could have upgraded 2+ years faster and been at the major two years earlier and not only not been furloughed but could have been a Captain there.

A bit dramatic but very true. In a hiring boom the difference between being a top ten FO in base and a 2 year upgrade vs 3 years of reserve and a 4 year upgrade can be as little as three classes.


Take a class if you can get it and if you call in sick over a 5 day reserve stretch it would be up to 7 days off.

Take the first class that is offered!

True story: during sim prep for my interview, a military guy said he was going to postpone until after the holidays to spend time with his family. I told him he needed to take the first class, and in fact I called and called until I got bumped up a month.

Unfortunately, this gentlemen is just returning from furlough while I missed it by only one class.

If you want to be a pilot, go for it. Your wife will either be onboard or she won't - trust me, this won't be the first exposure to the downsides of this career. Who knows, maybe she'll understand - which will take loads of stress off you and make you fall deeper in love with this keeper.

seattlepilot 03-08-2011 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by thesweetlycool (Post 959893)
The thing is that with this opportunity is one where I would not have to interview to get the job. All I will need to do is turn in my background check info and they will offer me a class date. I wish that I could take a class after all this is over, but I have to accept a date before April 25th or I dropped out of this program. So it's a tough choice.

I also know because of all these new airline hirings, the flight school I went to will be hiring flight instructors soon. If I am offered a job there, it will be much more flexible.

I understand that If I were to ever work for an airline this would be the life.. but im just not sure it's good timing right now. If they will give me a class date that is August, then great but im not sure I see that happening

that's pretty sweet what 141 school is that?


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