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Old 03-09-2011, 02:51 AM
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Any thoughts on if United's announcement of a 4% capacity cut in winter will affect it's regional partners?

From what I read it seems to be directed at older mainline jets and some 50 seat RJs. I'm new to this stuff but can't imagine they can just walk away suddenly from agreements with regionals. Wouldn't that take time and if they did couldn't the affected regional find flying elsewhere?

Certainly hope that won't be the case for everyones sake involved. This industry is indeed a non stop roller coaster. I guess you just get used to it or get off the ride.
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:26 AM
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Delta got rid of a bunch of rj's post merge and I would expect the same with the new United.
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They estimate 50% of their cuts will be from the regional, outsourced flying.
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RJ50's have the highest CASM in the industry, getting worse by the day with $100+ oil. Time for the regionals to bear some of the pain.
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Originally Posted by Keyscrab View Post
Any thoughts on if United's announcement of a 4% capacity cut in winter will affect it's regional partners?

From what I read it seems to be directed at older mainline jets and some 50 seat RJs. I'm new to this stuff but can't imagine they can just walk away suddenly from agreements with regionals. Wouldn't that take time and if they did couldn't the affected regional find flying elsewhere?

Certainly hope that won't be the case for everyones sake involved. This industry is indeed a non stop roller coaster. I guess you just get used to it or get off the ride.

1437 MAINLINE pilots furloughed at United are not upset about PARKING RJ's...trust me on that one.
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1437 MAINLINE pilots furloughed at United are not upset about PARKING RJ's...trust me on that one.
Neato!

So...now that we've gotten this out of our system...

Does anyone have any inside info on real who/what/when cuts?
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Neato!

So...now that we've gotten this out of our system...

Does anyone have any inside info on real who/what/when cuts?
What do you want to know?

They have indicated they will make capacity adjustments which will include elimination of unprofitable routes and reduction of same day frequencies as needed. Announcements of those specific reductions/changes will be communicated further down the road. So no official specifics as of yet as they analyze their plan going forward.

A few points from the employee bulletin:

The capacity reductions will come from reducing flight frequencies, indefinitely postponing the start of certain markets and exiting less profitable routes, primarily in our domestic schedule. The modest increase in international capacity allocates our aircraft on more profitable routes.
In addition, we are analyzing exiting certain less fuel-efficient aircraft from our fleet and will be taking other cost-saving measures.

Doesn’t it make sense to reduce more regional flying?

About half of our domestic capacity reduction will come from regional flying, much of it through a reduction in daily frequencies or day-of-week flying and, in some cases, exiting routes. As the world’s leading airline, we want to continue service to the communities in our network, which also enables us to feed customers into our hub locations for access to our destinations around the world.


What routes will be impacted?

We will share this information as we make the schedule changes.


How will I know how my hub or fleet is going to be affected?

As we finalize schedule changes, we will share the information with co-workers, customers, community and government leaders and others. We realize that any changes can affect the lives of our co-workers, and we will share the information as soon as possible.
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot View Post
They estimate 50% of their cuts will be from the regional, outsourced flying.
Is there a source for that? I definitely believe it.
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CHQ was just recently cut down to 8 erj's, the q400 is being used to reduce frequency with the regional jets, some of the Commutair short hop flying out of ewr will most likely get cut and redistributed, and Skw and XJT/ASA will be reduced by a percentage or two. I think a lot of this was all ready in motion prior to this announcement. XJT has been affected by these seasonal pull downs before. They keep the same number of aircraft around but they just utilize them a lot less.
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Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer View Post
Is there a source for that? I definitely believe it.

read the above posts...it is from the United employee web site.
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