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TRS531 03-30-2011 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by RunnerMark (Post 972880)
Come to their senses?? They were washing out a minimum 25% of the previous 121 and high time guys in the sim. That's just bad business practice to continue to hire people that aren't excited to be here. The guys with 1500-2000 hours, generally from flight instruction and 135 seem to fit the training profile the best. Maybe you should come to your senses and not call out a company you are TRYING to work for.

BTW, the company (mostly middle management) blows, but generally the training dept is top notch.

I just recently finished training and heard that exactly...A320 guys with tons of hours that had trouble with the FCP panel, the FMS and even raw data ILS work....others had bad attitudes and a few even argued constantly with the instructors.

The Training dept here at Whiskey IS TOPS. Great people that are patient and know their stuff!

saab2000 03-30-2011 11:52 PM

I assume the same is true anywhere - you must be ready to learn, and sometimes learn some new stuff.

That sounds painfully obvious, but there are folks who show up who think they know everything and don't want to learn the AWAC way. Not everything AWAC does is perfect, but they don't do a bad job of actually flying the airplanes.

The folks who show up ready to learn and not have some 'superior' attitude are more likely to succeed in training than those who have quirks and already know everything.

The pilot selection and training at AWAC is top notch in my opinion. It is a rare day when I fly with a new F/O who is not very good. The rest wash out.

WILLSFLYING 03-31-2011 04:08 AM

I should apologize. "Come to their senses" is obviously a figure of speach. If I really had any ill will at all toward this company, I wouldn't be so anxious to work for them. At no point did I "call out" this company however.

My point was simply that, in my opinion, they should hire pilots based on interviews and based on a person to person judge of character. I think that both high AND low time pilots have a lot to offer.

This is really all I have to say on this topic. I would like to avoid bulletin board mud slinging etc. I'm here to learn more about the airline I would like to fly for.

Happy Landings!

CEFO 03-31-2011 05:51 AM

I have just finished oe and they hired me with 3000 hours, a type rating and an atp. Its all about the attitude that you show when you turn up on interview day. Two days before my interview date they interviewed 8 and took none of them. They took all 8 on my date (great bunch of guys) Clearly they know what they are looking for in a candidate.

Work ethic is key, the training dept. Has been known to bend over backwards to get someone through who was easy to work with and was putting their best attempt forward. Very impressed with everyone i have met so far here.

airplaneit 04-02-2011 09:03 AM

To add to what CEFO is saying...

Air Whiskey has got to have the simplest interview out there. No sim ride, no test, just a 30 minute two-on-one interview. With that said, they are doing something right, because my indoc/systems class of 10 is a collection of the most professional, dedicated, friendly people I have ever met. In addition, the training department is first class. I have been constantly impressed with their performance throughout the training process thus far. I am halfway through sim training now.

My training class' experience ranged from 24 years old to 32 years old and 850 total time to about 2300 total. I was the only one without a bachelor's. The class after me has a 19 year old and a couple 40+ year olds with prior airline experience.

Av8tion 04-02-2011 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by airplaneit (Post 974593)
The class after me has a 19 year old and a couple 40+ year olds with prior airline experience.

Wow... they're giving 19 year olds class dates but not even giving me a phone call... what's going on here?


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