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blastoff 04-02-2011 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by swaayze (Post 974546)
Got it, but wasn't that part of the big problem leading to the branded flying: that XJT was on the hook (perhaps not owned but under lease) for a bunch of airplanes for a period of time but with CAL flying pulled from them?

That's not how the leases work.

When CAL pulled the 69 A/C from the XJT CPA, XJT had the option to return the A/C to CAL and terminate the leases. CAL had planned on XJT giving the 69 airframes back and was going to turn around and sub-lease them to CHQ. XJT said "screw that" and started Branded and later Delta Connection flying in LAX. This is why CHQ started its CAL contract with CRJ-200's pulled from the boneyard, they were expecting former XJT ERJ's.

No matter what, our fate was sealed after the Comair strike, as CAL made it a point to not have all of its regional operations under one carrier as a result. I imagine AMR has the same ideas about Eagle.

buddies8 04-02-2011 08:08 AM

If the MEC signs another no strike clause in our contract, AMR has no reason to. The disruptions as people want to talk about as reason AMR want to get rid of AE is just a negotiation ploy. AMR want a contract with AE done before we are in section 6 negotiations in 2013 when our contract is up. AMR wants it done outside section 6 and under our current contract rules which favor AMR.

Sell, spinoff AE for all I care. The end result will be a bankrupt AA going to court with BK paper work.. AA reminds me more day by day of PAN AM in there last years. AMR will be getting rid of GA and replacing with TH. When that is done, 6 mos later AA will be filing for BK.

Spin off AE, we can buy there routes and aircraft. Oh thats right, they have sold almost all a/c and international and domestic slots for money and are leasing all those same items back.

If I close my eyes, I see Lorenzo.

FLowpayFO 04-02-2011 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 974563)
"AA reminds me more day by day of PAN AM in there last years." "If I close my eyes, I see Lorenzo."

I couldn't agree more..

eaglefly 04-02-2011 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 974563)
If the MEC signs another no strike clause in our contract, AMR has no reason to. The disruptions as people want to talk about as reason AMR want to get rid of AE is just a negotiation ploy. AMR want a contract with AE done before we are in section 6 negotiations in 2013 when our contract is up. AMR wants it done outside section 6 and under our current contract rules which favor AMR.

Sell, spinoff AE for all I care. The end result will be a bankrupt AA going to court with BK paper work.. AA reminds me more day by day of PAN AM in there last years. AMR will be getting rid of GA and replacing with TH. When that is done, 6 mos later AA will be filing for BK.

Spin off AE, we can buy there routes and aircraft. Oh thats right, they have sold almost all a/c and international and domestic slots for money and are leasing all those same items back.

If I close my eyes, I see Lorenzo.

AMR will sell all AA routes and A/C to Eagle ?

Just out of curiousity, what do you think you can hold when the big move is made ?

I can't wait to see the 777 painted in Eagle colors and the senior F/O's (3rd year) going for the bid, especially with the $5/hour override over the EMB/CRJ.

Most awesome. :rolleyes:

jheath 04-02-2011 07:22 PM

Off topic slightly, but has anyone been to Kingman, AZ? Most or all of those XJT aircraft were parked there at one point. It was an impressive and depressing sight.

meeko031 04-02-2011 08:14 PM

what is our union doing? Don't forget to vote!!!!!!

buddies8 04-02-2011 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 974679)
AMR will sell all AA routes and A/C to Eagle ?

Just out of curiousity, what do you think you can hold when the big move is made ?

I can't wait to see the 777 painted in Eagle colors and the senior F/O's (3rd year) going for the bid, especially with the $5/hour override over the EMB/CRJ.

Most awesome. :rolleyes:

Yeah, great is it not? What you dont think the scenario can be played. Then you are dreaming for that AA job at someone elses expense. Does not mean I like it, but it is plausible.


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