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George Dubya 05-16-2011 11:42 AM

Colgan Ewr closing
 
Colgan Ewr pilot base is rumored to close and Iad will be the new pilot base .

Phuz 05-16-2011 11:45 AM

Sweet! Now we can turn off the lights in the crew room again.

EWRflyr 05-16-2011 11:51 AM

Again, to management, why should pilots always move to where they are based? You can't expect pilots to uproot their lives for you if you are constantly uprooting their lives in the process.

Luv2Rotate 05-16-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by George Dubya (Post 994448)
Colgan Ewr pilot base is rumored to close and Iad will be the new pilot base .

yeah I also heard the rumor that we're buying WN. Seriously, newark is a big continental hub and don't see any truth to this rumor. Thank you for playing, carry on.

jheath 05-16-2011 12:53 PM

Those new 757s are coming online reeeeeeal soon. That's what I was promised at least.

If you're going to make up a rumor, make it a good one.

Colgan Pilot 05-16-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by jheath (Post 994476)
Those new 757s are coming online reeeeeeal soon. That's what I was promised at least.

If you're going to make up a rumor, make it a good one.

I heard that the check airmen who did Orals this week werent certified and all the Orals are going to be redone this week... In STL!


;)



(If you didnt get it, I was kidding)

jheath 05-16-2011 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bzwebner (Post 994489)
I heard that the check airmen who did Orals this week werent certified and all the Orals are going to be redone this week... In STL!


;)



(If you didnt get it, I was kidding)

Checkrides too. Better not forget those flows too quickly.

dustrpilot 05-16-2011 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by jheath (Post 994506)
Checkrides too. Better not forget those flows too quickly.

Its happened before.

Colgan Pilot 05-16-2011 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by dustrpilot (Post 994508)
Its happened before.

I know! (Shows you how original I am, huh?)

Fishfreighter 05-16-2011 03:10 PM

Let's think this over, boys.

CAL/UAL merge. So now it's all United feeder flying.

EWR feeder flying goes more to XJT and IAD flying to Colgan. So it would make sense to send the pilots and f/as to IAD.

Could actually happen....

dingo222 05-16-2011 04:05 PM

dubya,

miss your antics on here and the other site

Riddler 05-16-2011 04:39 PM

Interesting... about a year ago, CAL downsized its EWR hub and replaced a lot of 737s with Q400s. Smisek swore that customers weren't booking away from Q400s. That might not actually be the case any more.

clipperskipper 05-16-2011 04:44 PM

Not before we open BOS.

Bartok 05-16-2011 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 994547)
Let's think this over, boys.

CAL/UAL merge. So now it's all United feeder flying.

EWR feeder flying goes more to XJT and IAD flying to Colgan. So it would make sense to send the pilots and f/as to IAD.

Could actually happen....

Wouldn't surprise me either.

All of Colgans outstation basing will be cleaned up.

newarkblows 05-16-2011 05:45 PM

Colgan is just getting spread to more bases. All of the United regionals are going to be spread out across more of the hubs. So ewr will shrink and there will be a presence in IAD, DEN, ORD, IAH. Same thing for XJT/ASA, Commutair, Skywest, Republic, etc... lots of little bases all over the place.

Boomer 05-16-2011 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 994640)
Colgan is just getting spread to more bases. All of the United regionals are going to be spread out across more of the hubs. So ewr will shrink and there will be a presence in IAD, DEN, ORD, IAH. Same thing for XJT/ASA, Commutair, Skywest, Republic, etc... lots of little bases all over the place.

Delta's been doing that with their litter of regionals. It makes for long, unproductive trips with lots of deadheading.

Oh, and did I mention you can only count on min days off?

sinsilvia666 05-16-2011 07:19 PM

such a mean tease ! man, i wish this were true...

sweet baby jesus would that be amazing if we get to leave that horrid airspace forever...<smile>

BE19Pilot 05-16-2011 09:07 PM

There are a lot of arguments one could make to support either supposition. EWR is a delay ridden and unpopular base for all airlines, and doesn't take advantage of all the operational efficiencies that the Q-400 offers. Retrenching the Q-400 fleet in IAD would allow UA/CO to serve more routes that justify and are more lucrative than those served out of EWR. In fact, I would be surprised to see the IAH base last more than a year or two. I think that the Q would be a much better airplane out of DEN to serve the Rockie Mountain communities. We shall see...Always interesting and amusing to try and predict and second guess our management and industry.

Luv2Rotate 05-17-2011 10:51 AM

Denver, Salt Lake, Chicago, and San Francisco all seem like they'd be good bases. All have good United/Continental presence and the Q would do very well in those markets.

etflies 05-17-2011 12:28 PM

Been rumors of the Q moving out west for a long time. I know DEN has been thrown around a lot, I've heard ORD more recently. I think it'd do very well, it'd be nice to have some bases out west for those of us from the better coast! ;)

aussieflyboy 05-17-2011 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 994896)
Denver, Salt Lake, Chicago, and San Francisco all seem like they'd be good bases. All have good United/Continental presence and the Q would do very well in those markets.

Salt Lake? Continental/United presence?? How long have I been asleep!!!???

djrogs03 05-17-2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by BE19Pilot (Post 994732)
I think that the Q would be a much better airplane out of DEN to serve the Rockie Mountain communities.

Oh Hells NO!

CANAM 05-18-2011 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 994454)
Again, to management, why should pilots always move to where they are based? You can't expect pilots to uproot their lives for you if you are constantly uprooting their lives in the process.

Fear not. I have no doubt that Colgan will pay 100% of your moving costs. There will also be a generous relocation allowance. I'm sure the union will also ensure the company pays all of your home's closing costs. No doubt Colgan will also pay the difference that you lost on your home's value as a result of the sale.

Fishfreighter 05-18-2011 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 995140)
Fear not. I have no doubt that Colgan will pay 100% of your moving costs. There will also be a generous relocation allowance. I'm sure the union will also ensure the company pays all of your home's closing costs. No doubt Colgan will also pay the difference that you lost on your home's value as a result of the sale.

Now that's some funny stuff!

FlyJSH 05-18-2011 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by BE19Pilot (Post 994732)
I think that the Q would be a much better airplane out of DEN to serve the Rockie Mountain communities

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seahawker01 05-19-2011 04:46 AM

I could see it
 

Originally Posted by George Dubya (Post 994448)
Colgan Ewr pilot base is rumored to close and Iad will be the new pilot base .

If you think about every other base has some sort of plan to upgrade/change their crew room for the contract yet at EWR we have zip. From what I have seen, all the new hire FO's are going to IAH as well and we are/were going to crew IAD with IAD FA's. Seems to make sense to me. Other rumors are colgan was looking at crew rooms in ORD and Untied manger let it out that Q's are going to DEN.

FlyJSH 05-19-2011 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by seahawker01 (Post 995636)
If you think about every other base has some sort of plan to upgrade/change their crew room for the contract yet at EWR we have zip. From what I have seen, all the new hire FO's are going to IAH as well and we are/were going to crew IAD with IAD FA's. Seems to make sense to me. Other rumors are colgan was looking at crew rooms in ORD and Untied manger let it out that Q's are going to DEN.

Sooo, crew rooms determine the life expectancy of a base? Hmmm :confused::confused:

Av8tion 05-19-2011 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by seahawker01 (Post 995636)
From what I have seen, all the new hire FO's are going to IAH

Really?? I would've thought that IAH would be pretty senior, especially with people who would want to commute from the west... especially with EWR as the other option...

Sonny Crockett 05-19-2011 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by jheath (Post 994476)
Those new 757s are coming online reeeeeeal soon. That's what I was promised at least.

If you're going to make up a rumor, make it a good one.


IAH Chief Pilot is typed in the 757/767. Bids will be out soon....


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