Great Lakes Gear Collapse at DEN
 

Just saw on the news here in DEN...flight from Pueblo to Denver

http://www.9news.com/news/local/arti...xt|FRONTPAGE|p

Them maintenance records better be up to par. ;)

from what I heard it appears it happened during taxi...not sure if it was from the high speed off the runway or on the main taxiway itself...

Glad everyone is ok

Does this really surprise anyone?

Says the Colgan guy who had had 2 tires come off during landing.

Glass houses

More so than any other company's after a mishap?

Does Great Lakes have a history of mishaps?

I don't keep a running total in my head or anything, but since I've been on this board I don't remember Great Lakes seemingly having been in the news too many times (if ever before) for an incident.

Does a gear collaping on any aircraft surprise me?
Yes.

USMCFLYR

Everybody at Great Lakes better prepare themselves for another "blood letting" memo.

They've had a rash of gear collapses. Last one i think maintenance left the gear handle up and poor fo powered up without checking.

No squattie switchie on the 1900's ???

That incident was on the Bro.

The Beech 1900 landing gear is mechanically locked down with a spring-loaded snapring and ball bearings to lock the ball bearings in place. It shouldn't be possible to retract the landing gear on the ground if those snaprings/ball bearings are in place even if the hydraulic pump is pressurized due to the landing gear geometry. Also a squat switch prevents the landing gear handle from being actuated on the ground. I suspect that the culprit was corrosion in the mechanical downlock mechanism.

"The runway was closed as a precautionary measure, but that closure is not causing delays at the airport."

Finally, the press reports what is most important!

Classified by many as a bottom feeder, the piranhas attack GLA quickly any chance they get.

Yea, well tell them to attack this: One of our pilots enroute to Farmington overhears a cirrus pilot barely making sense over the radio. The pilot passes out and the passenger gets on the radio (not a pilot). The GLA pilot talks the passenger through descending the aircraft to a lower altitude. The cirrus pilot wakes up, takes control and lands safely. A positive ending to what may have been disasterous. Sounds like the passenger was pretty wacked out and the GLA guys almost had him pull the chute.

Yes - I understand the work rules and pay as being among the lowest, but I was just wondering if they truly had a worse safety record than any others or if it was just this opinion of the operation as a whole that had people lumping in the safety record into one big disappointing bundle.
I thought there might be other factors at play behind some of the past comments. I would think that ANY company had better have their maintenance records in order after a mishap for instance.

USMCFLYR

"Well, if it had been a pilot at MyReallyAwesome Regional Airlines, he would have sent telepathic messages to the guy teaching him not only how to land, but a full aerobatic routine."

Both j hook and the squat switch should prevent one from even pullin the handle up while taxing , that is even if they wanted too. Then you would get that annoying gear silence horn. '!!!!!!

You've got him beat on that one. Must learn telepathy on day 1 of FMS training or something. We just ask for headings and adjust accordingly to the landmarks we see. Is "MyReallyAwesomeRegional" hiring? Do they have a sim ride? It's pretty rough down here on the Farm Team. 12 hour bus rides without air conditioning, cheap motels that charge by the hour...but the beer specials are nice. The showers only cost a quarter! Ah yes, to get the call to double A would be beautiful. If I could get Triple A, I'd be set.

"It's all ball bearings now-adays"
.....Fletch
Yes I'm bored

When are the feds going to shut that place down? Those mechanics "Ops check good" everything from alternate gear extensions to autofeather failures to you name it.

Great Lakes Airlines, Accepting Failure Daily.

Hmmmm, just what kind of showers? :eek:

Regular water showers. The golden ones are extra.

Too Much Info....;)

That's what the brochure said. Don't shoot the messenger!!!

When I read about this it did not surprise me that much. USMCFLYR, I believe they actually had a couple of single engine landings about 8-12 months ago up in Montana. I think it was only 2 if I remember correctly, so I wasn't shocked. There always to seem to be something going on there. I noticed it was one of those old YV tails. I heard those things had all kinds of corrosion problems.

Thanks for sharing the information Stew. I'm surprised that this wouldn't have made national news when so much focus has been on safety within the airline - and specifically - the Regionals.

USMCFLYR

How lakes stays in business surprises me. In my 2 years there as a CA I pumped the gear down twice and had 2 engines go south on me. On one of the the DO as trying to get me to ferry the aircraft when the engine could not produce take off torque without over temp'ing the ITT. He explanation was "how much take off powers do you need?".

The pilots at lakes deserve free beers for life, if it wasn't for their skills there would be more accidents at Lakes. Doug Voss can rot in he!!

Ah, good old 208. Every time I flew that airplane I thought of you...in a straight way of course.