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Bartok 07-03-2011 12:24 PM

New Pinnacle bid power - Tprops
 
I have taken the bid packets for the turboprops and added the new SLI positions to each aircraft and seat.

It does not include any XJ turboprops because they will all be gone soon.

It does not have Q400 captain positions because only Colgan guys are eligible and they all know where they sit.

All personal info, names and employee numbers, have been removed.


There are possibly some errors, you can sue me, I'll pay you in unused SLI longevity credit.

The list for the jets is about half way done.


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Al Czervik 07-03-2011 12:39 PM

Nice. Thanks!

Farmlover 07-03-2011 12:41 PM

good job, its nice to see where we sit everywhere

Al Czervik 07-03-2011 04:17 PM

9L senior bases are IAH then EWR on the Q?

For both CA and FO?

etflies 07-03-2011 04:25 PM

Disregard, I thought wrong.

Bartok 07-03-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1017491)
9L senior bases are IAH then EWR on the Q?

For both CA and FO?

EWR looks more senior to me overall, but IAH has fewer pilots so your seniority doesn't get you as much value.

Luv2Rotate 07-03-2011 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1017491)
9L senior bases are IAH then EWR on the Q?

For both CA and FO?

Most senior guys are in IAH both FO and CA. You have a few senior guys around EWR because they live really close or their commute is less than a 40min flight. Overall EWR is a VERY junior base and new faces seem to crop up every week.

Avroman 08-01-2011 04:06 PM

just an FYI, both Dash bases only list the FO's

Bartok 08-01-2011 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1032389)
just an FYI, both Dash bases only list the FO's

I know, only Colgan guys can upgrade to it and they all know how close they are to holding it already.

Rama04 08-01-2011 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1032394)
I know, only Colgan guys can upgrade to it and they all know how close they are to holding it already.

But that will come to an end after what 2 upgrade classes? I would like to see how that stands if you have access to it. See a native 9E FO might be blocked out of the CRJ CA position for a while ue to the ratios/fences but able to hold Q CA when Colgan exhausts their ratio.
Any insight into how many more 9L CAs until they fill their ratio? What is the number range on the ISL that the 9L guys will come from?
Thanks!

The Juice 08-01-2011 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1032422)
But that will come to an end after what 2 upgrade classes? I would like to see how that stands if you have access to it. See a native 9E FO might be blocked out of the CRJ CA position for a while ue to the ratios/fences but able to hold Q CA when Colgan exhausts their ratio.
Any insight into how many more 9L CAs until they fill their ratio? What is the number range on the ISL that the 9L guys will come from?
Thanks!

It will not be done by the next 2 upgrade classes. Even if Colgan is under 40 Q CA spots, upgrade/transition classes for the Q will most like just be for attrition so that 40 remains. The only way to make up ground is if 1)Colgan gets more Q's or/and 2)Staffing is increased per Q aircraft. Everything else is just swapping a Colgan who has left with another Colgan moving into the Q.

Also, even when the Q spots are finally filled, there are many Saab guys in Group 3 waiting for a Q spot in a desirable (non EWR) base and they will have first opportunity over group 4 guys.

Rama04 08-01-2011 09:14 PM

So when are we buying y'all more Q's?

jheath 08-01-2011 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1032536)
So when are we buying y'all more Q's?

You didn't hear? The new widebody Q is coming on property next week.

Colnago 08-01-2011 11:03 PM

Awesome. Thanks a lot for this.

Luv2Rotate 08-02-2011 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1032536)
So when are we buying y'all more Q's?

Probably after 9E parks those crumby CRJ 200's.

Saabs 08-02-2011 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1032536)
So when are we buying y'all more Q's?

You didn't hear? There is no More "we". Next

FlyJSH 08-02-2011 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1032536)
So when are we buying y'all more Q's?

The sooner the better. We need some more upgrades.

(who was it that wanted "category and class"?)

Bartok 08-02-2011 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1032993)
The sooner the better. We need some more upgrades.

(who was it that wanted "category and class"?)

Actually you could have stapled Colgan and given them these fences and things would be about the same for them.

Colgan guys got alot of good things out of this merger, I would be very careful rubbing that in some of the other groups faces.

FlyJSH 08-02-2011 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1033018)
Actually you could have stapled Colgan and given them these fences and things would be about the same for them.

Colgan guys got alot of good things out of this merger, I would be very careful rubbing that in some of the other groups faces.

I get tired of folks hired at Pinnacle AFTER the Q deal was in place whining about how THEY paid for the planes.

Saabs 08-02-2011 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1033018)
Actually you could have stapled Colgan and given them these fences and things would be about the same for them.

Colgan guys got alot of good things out of this merger, I would be very careful rubbing that in some of the other groups faces.


I'll agree with this, nobody should brag about anything. We are all one company now, time to start acting like it. Oh, and props are for boats!

Saabs 08-02-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1032993)
The sooner the better. We need some more upgrades.

(who was it that wanted "category and class"?)


I hope we don't get anymore. I'd much rather fly a 737 at mainline than have a 737-500 replacement on our property.

Luv2Rotate 08-03-2011 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1033075)
I hope we don't get anymore. I'd much rather fly a 737 at mainline than have a 737-500 replacement on our property.

What?!?! a 737-500 on property? Wow, I must've missed that "read and sign" :D

Saabs 08-03-2011 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1033229)
What?!?! a 737-500 on property? Wow, I must've missed that "read and sign" :D

Q 400 = 737-300/500 replacement. Ask continental pilots

The Juice 08-03-2011 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1033304)
Q 400 = 737-300/500 replacement. Ask continental pilots

Thats funny :D

mooney 08-03-2011 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1033018)
Actually you could have stapled Colgan and given them these fences and things would be about the same for them.

Colgan guys got alot of good things out of this merger, I would be very careful rubbing that in some of the other groups faces.

I like your moves...


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1033031)
I get tired of folks hired at Pinnacle AFTER the Q deal was in place whining about how THEY paid for the planes.

I like your style...

Bartok 08-03-2011 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1033452)
I like your moves...



I like your style...

I like your sense of humor........

you need to update your avatar, can't see anything.

mooney 08-03-2011 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1033461)
I like your sense of humor........

you need to update your avatar, can't see anything.

I've got nothing worth reading, I sure as hell have nothing worth looking at...

Bartok 08-03-2011 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1033490)
I've got nothing worth reading, I sure as hell have nothing worth looking at...

What does your girlfriend look like?

mooney 08-04-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1033658)
What does your girlfriend look like?

my wife knows my login info. If I put a picture of my gf on here, well, you know how that goes.....;)

Bartok 08-04-2011 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1033833)
my wife knows my login info. If I put a picture of my gf on here, well, you know how that goes.....;)

Lol, that's funny!

usmc-sgt 08-04-2011 06:14 AM

Have your companies provided any info yet of our bids/in base seniority yet? We have nothing for the jets or saabs on our side.

I know some Pinnacle (or was it Mesaba) FOs were awarded a dash 8 vacancy the last award. It would be nice if they were able to bid on it knowing what the bids/awards look like as well as what their seniority would hold as opposed to just bidding blindly not knowing where they stood.

Bartok 08-04-2011 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 1033846)
Have your companies provided any info yet of our bids/in base seniority yet? We have nothing for the jets or saabs on our side.

I know some Pinnacle (or was it Mesaba) FOs were awarded a dash 8 vacancy the last award. It would be nice if they were able to bid on it knowing what the bids/awards look like as well as what their seniority would hold as opposed to just bidding blindly not knowing where they stood.

The next vacancy from what I understand is open to everyone. Even if they don't have open vacancy positions, which I'm sure they will, the displacements of SF340 DTW and MEM alone will effect everyone.

I don't know when the company is going to provide updated bid lists, hence these threads, lol

usmc-sgt 08-04-2011 10:21 AM

Its interesting (but not surprising) that there is nothing out there by the company. If I were an XJ saab guy and were going to be displaced I would like to know what my seniority could hold. I would also like to know the types of schedules that are being built at each base to help determine QOL.

Saabs 08-04-2011 02:28 PM

Props are for boats

CRJPlt 08-04-2011 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1034110)
Props are for boats

Jets are for hot tubs!

Bartok 08-04-2011 05:44 PM

Ok, by popular demand I included the Q400 Captain Bid lists for EWR and IAH.

I don't know why anyone would want to know this information, but if you're into S&M, here ya go.



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