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from what I understand, everything remains the same for 5 years at least, our agreements do not start to expire for 5 years.

Hope you're right Boomer. I've heard that as well but the rumor mill is working overtime!

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1025511)

Yes.

That is not just implied - it is stated.

Hmmmmm, regional to be spun off so the mother can get better rates. Boomer, why is Comair de ja vu coming to mind?

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Originally Posted by On Autopilot (Post 1025558)

Hmmmmm, regional to be spun off so the mother can get better rates. Boomer, why is Comair de ja vu coming to mind?

Or Continental Express --> ExpressJet deja vu...if they're lucky.

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1025512)

It's official - American Airlines is introducing regional whipsaw.

The next announcement will be from RAH and consist of just one word - "WINNING!"

NOT really for republic. The scope announced yesterday would still require the "new carrier" to take the airplanes and pilots AND ALPA to be able to take any route currently being serviced by eagle. Dont think RAH would like having ALPA in house

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 1025487)

Where does this sound bad to you? This says that it will allow Eagle to ALSO gain flying for other carriers. To me this sounds like it COULD be a very good thing.

Try to be objective here, I know you don't want this to be a bad thing, but I don't think any regional partner has come out ahead when their major partner starts to try and distance themselves from them. Comair & XJT both come to mind.

"COULD be a good thing" just like buying a lottery ticket means you COULD be about to have a ton of money.....Yes, it could be good, but I really don't think the odds are there. Just trying to keep things real for ya, no need to overreact the other way either, I wouldn't leave if I was at Eagle, but you gotta be ready for BOHICA in this business.

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Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 1025477)

"Strategically for AMR, it would be beneficial, as we could, over time, diversify our regional feed with additional regional airlines to ensure we have access to the most competitive rates and service.

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 1025487)

Where does this sound bad to you? This says that it will allow Eagle to ALSO gain flying for other carriers. To me this sounds like it COULD be a very good thing.

Take a look at how the regionals have been treated since 9/11. Their legacy customers CONSTANTLY driving the price (product quality) down. AMR is now FINALLY doing that to their largest regional provider, as well as their most expensive.

Like others said, reference XJT and COMAIR. USAir was notorious for doing it to theirs in the 90's. To a lesser extent, and a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, AWAC and ACA with UAL.

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Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 1025632)

AMR is now FINALLY doing that to their largest regional provider, as well as their most expensive.

Like others said, reference XJT and COMAIR.

Exactly. Eagle will now be free to put in a bid on Eagle's current flying.

Get ready for the SUCK!

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 1025487)

Where does this sound bad to you? This says that it will allow Eagle to ALSO gain flying for other carriers. To me this sounds like it COULD be a very good thing.

Wanna really throw a kink in everybody's panties.....

how about they do flying for other One World Partners.....
They do it now as an AA code share... once spun off, and with the recent DOT authorization for anywhere there are open skies agreements; Eagle already is a member of the one world alliance... seems to me they woudl meet the definitions required to do that flying as stand alone flying; which explains their new scope additions detailing direct flying not done as part of a CPA... they could code share with Iberia and BA and everybody else....

They also will no longer be AMR owned, and could easily put all the 700's and ATR's on the executive certificate, order larger E190 or C-series and operate them on the code share and stand alones, and let the 135/140/145 and 50 CRJ's continue doing AA feed on the Eagle certificate.

With the larger C-series or E190's they could even interline with AA for their same routes they do now... just like AA did with jetBlue.

interesting times this will be