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I've got a weird feeling there will be random wave of sickness in September at 9L. If only it wasn't induced by the company.
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Originally Posted by Deice Press
(Post 1038080)
I've got a weird feeling there will be random wave of sickness in September at 9L. If only it wasn't induced by the company.
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+2 ..........i seem a little *cough cough* sick
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The company is abiding by the contract. What's the question again?
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Originally Posted by angelaviator
(Post 1037879)
I thought August was maybe one of those months where the schedules were really bad and you could let it go one month. The new lines for September are even worse. I have never seen lines this bad in 5 years at Colgan. I thought our schedules (quality of life) was supposed to improve. When you have 41 lines and only 6 have 12 days off, the rest the contractual minimum at 11, it seems like a slap in the face. How are people ever suppose to be with their families with schedules like this. Never posted before and just needed to let some steam off. I have never been a complainer but this issue is really getting to me. Did anyone email the union when they asked for input for the August lines and why we thought they were so bad. I guess Mesaba scheduling didnt care because they are worse. Is PBS going to be better than these horrible new lines that the mesaba scheduling is giving us or what and when are we getting it?
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Originally Posted by etflies
(Post 1037887)
I never thought I'd say it, but I wish a certain, previously loathed someone was still making the schedules. At least there was a chance to enjoy some kind of quality of life. They put R1 back on a few of the lines, I didn't think they could do that with the contract. I'm not sure what is going on but I hope it changes, and fast. I remember when becoming Mesaba was supposed to make this place better. They can keep their shiny white airplane, I want our schedules and quality of life back.
You can have your quality of life back, give us that (on average 37% pay raise you got), not to mention the better work rules, and the massive gain you got in SLI...unless you were hired after Jul 1, 2011...go back to the way it was at 9L, tell me how it will work out for you... You are in for a treat...when PBS comes, your quality of life will go furthur down the drain (if your not sitting top 15% in your seat in domicile), guys will prob end up pushing you down the list, and you'll be sitting reserve longer if you havent already. But you'll still have that pay and work rules, and everything else you got out of this merger, which could have been alot worse. There are guys at Pinnacle and Mesaba that have been sitting reserve for 4 years + (me being one of them), some previously sat reserve for 7+, so you wont get any sympathy out of me or them....any complaint from a QOL standpoint, well your in for a treat, my friend. While I understand your not happy with your predicament, no one is on the bottom of the list, and i'de say alot more guys have it worse than you...That change your talking about is coming...it's called displacements and PBS...those arent very popular things these days, so hope for the best/plan for the worst...you still have a job dont you? Becoming Mesaba/Pinnacle was the best thing that could have happened to you (increase in staffing, better safety, better pay, better work rules, more aircraft), while you may be too complacent to realize how much better things are, you will in time. |
Originally Posted by etflies
(Post 1037887)
I never thought I'd say it, but I wish a certain, previously loathed someone was still making the schedules. At least there was a chance to enjoy some kind of quality of life. They put R1 back on a few of the lines, I didn't think they could do that with the contract. I'm not sure what is going on but I hope it changes, and fast. I remember when becoming Mesaba was supposed to make this place better. They can keep their shiny white airplane, I want our schedules and quality of life back.
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Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot
(Post 1038403)
Ah yes. Another inept individual who doesn't have a clue. The Colgan name is going away for a reason. Mesaba's management is at Colgan...for a reason. 'Nough said. Tell me how it is in a year.
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You're right, I should shut up and be happy with any decline in the quality of our schedules because I haven't been with this company as long as you have, and I didn't spend as long on reserve as you. I mean really, who wants to continue to to be home every night, with half the month off?
Please don't act like you know me, or the situation I am in, or assume that I do not realize the gains we have enjoyed as group. We benefited in ways we couldn't have hoped to without the merger and I'm tired of the holier than thou attitude some pilots on this board have. Yes, generally speaking we're better off, even someone as "inept" as I am recognizes that. As much as pay, a contract or the SLI impact my life, my schedule probably impacts my quality of life more than any other aspect of this whole merger and integration. Therefore when it is impacted like this, I reserve the right to be unhappy and do what pilots do best - complain. That being said, I lost a ton of seniority, relatively speaking and my pay raise wasn't even in the same zip code as the figure you gave. And I'm grateful for what I got out of it, because every little bit helps. That being said, I've elected to remain in my current seat and base because I live 15min from the employee lot, bid in the top 10, and enjoyed a quality of life that was as good as my current situation will allow. I have not said a word about the fallout from the JCBA, or the SLI because I know that in general, we're all better off for it. I have seen a lot of whining and complaining and mud-slinging from people at all 3 companies over things they cannot change. Within an hour of one another, two different people come on here, make assumptions and proceed to assume they know something about me, talk down to, and insult me based on a post I made in a thread about schedules that do not affect either of them, at least based on the kind of aircraft they have posted in their profiles. Really guys? And yes, I realize the irony of my making an assumption when I, only a few lines before, called someone out of assuming something about me. |
Originally Posted by etflies
(Post 1038412)
You're right, I should shut up and be happy with any decline in the quality of our schedules because I haven't been with this company as long as you have, and I didn't spend as long on reserve as you. I mean really, who wants to continue to to be home every night, with half the month off?
Please don't act like you know me, or the situation I am in, or assume that I do not realize the gains we have enjoyed as group. We benefited in ways we couldn't have hoped to without the merger and I'm tired of the holier than thou attitude some pilots on this board have. Yes, generally speaking we're better off, even someone as "inept" as I am recognizes that. But my schedule probably impacts my quality of life more than any other aspect of this whole merger and integration, therefore when it is impacted like this, I reserve the right to be unhappy, and do what pilots do best - complain. That being said, I lost nearly 30% relatively speaking in the SLI, I wasn't in the group that gained any, and my pay raise was nowhere even close to the 37% you claim. I'm not asking for any sympathy, particularly from someone unaffected by our current schedule. You came into a thread about a former Colgan base that affects former Colgan pilots and talk down to me for complaining about two consecutive months of schedules far worse than any we ever saw when we were just Colgan and proceed to lecture me as though I do not know anything about the situation currently surrounding myself, my fellow pilots or my (former?) company? Really? Come on. I've been at Mesaba for 4 years, got put under every Pinnacle pilot hired before July 1st. Don't tell me I don't understand the situation. There are a lot of people that are going to suffer a lot worse than you and I. Schedules suck, yea I know. I commute and I go back to reserve next month and unless I change bases, that's how it's going to be for a long time to come. Your not the only one. |
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