Blending of information
 

I'm in Indoc and have my final on Saturday. All the material has been introduced, but now the problem is that I can't keep it all straight. What numbers and rules go with what. It's all starting to blend together. Is this normal, and how can I overcome this?

Copious amounts of beer :D

get in a study group

This will happen AFTER I pass my indoc final. Only a few to give myself as a reward.

Kidding aside, what he said, study group and don't be afraid to ask questions, even among your group. Study hard but take a break too now and then to stay clear. We've all been there, and the first 121 ground school is always a trial.:rolleyes: Good luck.

I know youve heard me say before.....RELAX DUDE.....:D

Jonas, I cant wait to hear all about day two in the SIM, you will soon understand why I didnt say day one:p

2nd best advice given here......behind the beer one:D

Seriously this is the best thing you can do...

Eh. It depends on the person. I find that study groups tend to get know-it-alls shouting out answers so everybody else knows that they're smart.

A beer is probably what you need right now. I've been through a few indocs at different airlines and the guys that always struggle seem to be the ones who study for 12 hours a day and then on test day take the entire alotted time to take their test. They go through every question then overthink it and change their original answer to the wrong one.

Get a beer or 4 and take a pause for the cause man.

A friend of mine recently told me, after learning that my husband got hired, that indoc would be like "drinking from a fire hose!" I'm with the majority-when it starts blending together-grab a beer, and watch something mind-numbing on tv.

hang in there jonas, I am cheering for ya! Indoc is the easy part!

It depends...
 

Everyone learns differently. I am the type of person that needs to be immersed in the material for it to sink in. I have to read every word and take notes on everything. I can't just do rote memory, I need to fully understand every detail for it to really make sense or it will just all blend together. They say when asked the time don’t build a clock, but for me I need to build a clock to get the time (I just make sure I build the clock in my head and just tell the examiner the time). What I did was take detailed notes phrasing things in my own words and organizing things into topics that made sense to me. Reading manuals and looking at flash cards can only go so far. Try writing the information down instead of just reading it. Also, try learning a subject as if you were going to teach it to someone else. Get someone to study with and just go back and forth teaching topics to each other. The point is, make sure you try learning things a variety of different ways.

It sucked, because I got told on a daily basis that I was working way to hard and I was going to end up washing out because I would burn out. I almost started to listen to everyone else and just try to passively learn, but then I realized that I have always learned this way, and why change the way I learn at such a critical moment. Only you know what will work best for you. You have had to learn a lot just to get where you are today, so do whatever you did to get your ratings.

...then there's systems :)

Yeah I warned him the next step in this parade is learning to fly in icing conditions upside down, in a non standard hold with only one engine, and the left flap inop on a dme arc, in a dark cockpit with only the #1 RMI and the tail is on fire, and the captain has fainted, because he ate the fish, and the gpws is screaming bank angle..woop woop terain terain pull up........ (and he wanted to be an airline pilot....:D)

Beer is one option.

But I find a marathon session of sex more beneficial.

It might get awkward if you end up getting that person as a sim partner though.

I don't know, a good performance in the box might lead to another good performance in the box.

Just make sure you don't get the callouts mixed up, otherwise the instructor might get a little uncomfortable.

Now this is getting too funny

This happened to me. What you need to do is de- tension yourself. Take the weekend off, get away for a few hours, then come back. Good as new!!

What if he's not into boy boinkin? (Sorry couldn't resist) :D

Or perhaps "Whoop Whoop Pull Out"... :D

Thought for the day:

If one gets a gipwizz alert during sex, than I submit they didnt familiarize themselves with all available information prior to the deed:D

Welcome to the world of 121 flying.

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Penguin theory;

Another good thing for me that helps relieve stress is going to the gym or running on the treadmill for 1/2hr with some good tunes. I just let myself get immersed in the next set or next qtr mile and forget about the rest. Its amazing how your mind is able to look at things from a different perspective, usually for the better, when u just take a break.

Ugh!! You beat me to it! :p

Hah! Funniest thread in a while!

Oral unit okay...

Seriously though. Grab a beer head down to the pool and take a breather for a little bit. Chat with some folks Then back at it. The people in my class that didn't study in groups washed out. Maybe not before the oral but during the sim.
I'm psyched, starting IOE this weekend!

Ha I still crack up everytime I flip the batt sel sw. on the Brasilia......:D

Study group really helped me when I was in initial trainning. Also you need to relax a bit and just put the books down for half or the whole day.

Make sure you put on sunscreen by the pool! It's amazing how much those shoulder harnesses sting with a nice crispy burn. Plus everyone will think you're a crack addict when you start itching like Tyrone.

True Story.

Make sure you wash your new shiny pilot shirts a few times and soften up that collar too. There's nothing like a crisp sunburn and a crisp collar. I think 5 years later I still have red marks on my neck.

I second all the comments about study groups and taking time off to not think about stuff.

Passed my indoc final yesterday. What a bear it was to do. There were some questions that I got wrong because I originally marked the correct answer then changed them because of self doubt. One guy in my class failed the exam by 2 questions, was told to get his belongings from the class room and hotel and go home. I was surprised by this because he did really well on all the quizes, whereas I did pretty horrible some days. Systems starts Tuesday. Thanks for all the advice.

Woohoo and Congrats! Now the real fun begins - systems!!!!

Man- who do you work for? Told a guy to go home after an indoc quiz?

Welcome to the 121/135 world when there are more pilots than jobs. There is no margin for error, yet if the company needs pilots bad enough in the future you will shake your head at the stuff they will let slide. Nature of the beast and all that. Anyway's good job J, and keep me apprised as to how systems go...

"One guy in my class failed the exam by 2 questions, was told to get his belongings from the class room and hotel and go home."

Every company I have worked for and every FAA certificate I applied for, the written was the least difficult part. Heck, in most indoc classes, they practically tell you "this is a question, and this is the answer" for the written tests. If one cannot pass the written, his chance of passing the sims is almost zero.