Eagle Junior Base(s)
 

How junior is EMB MIA? Is it more junior than ATR MIA? Where can new hires expect to be sent initially?

Thanks in advance.

Eagle life thread touches on this often. We can only give you HINDSIGHT, since it is a new base for the EMB. LATELY a ton of new hires have gone there, since people already here typically could not uproot their lives to move there. HOWEVER going forward, once filled, which they are close to do doing, it might become more senior, because its better than living in NY/ORD (arguably).

RIGHT NOW EMB MIA is more junior than ATR MIA, but it is only because they just opened the EMB base. Once things stabilize that will change. If you go there as a new hire on the EMB, you will be on the bottom of a fairly junior pile, since 50-75% of the FOs there have been hired Mar 2010 or sooner.

Thank you.. all good information. I'm just trying to figure out if they had given me the option of EMB, CRJ or ATR which one I would want. I live within driving distance from MIA which is one of the reasons why I prefer Eagle over many others.

Let some of the other guys chime in, I am still newer. But the EMB base is really junior, so if you get hired now, you would be the bottom a slow moving pile. Might be wise to do the ATR for a year in MIA, and get off RSV faster. The CRJ isnt in MIA, and trust me, YOU WANT TO LIVE IN BASE!!!!! So go with something in MIA. Everything changes so much, so fast, esp here, its hard to say. We also have a ton of guys who will go to AA, so movement here is dependent on that as well. They had like 120 guys retire 2 days ago, so we will see what that does for EGL over the next few months.

Let the guys who arent as new chime in, they will give you some good wisdom.

Do you think that if I go ATR, I would get stuck in San Juan?

At Eagle, when you get to class, the planes come with the base. So it will be ATR MIA OR ATR SJU, but it wont be ATR to find out later on what your base is.

SJU is a good place to live, for sure the rent is cheaper than MIA, ORD, NY, LAX, DFW. lol!!!

The commute to MIA is easy, but I don't think you'll get stuck in SJU, is shrinking slowly.

hey guys,
I ll be choosing the base in a week or so... I am not sure what a junior vs. senior base means in regards of qol for a new hire. In other words is junior base a good or bad thing for a newbie. thanx

Well, it means how long will you be on RSV. Everything depends on the people above you. If you go somewhere everyone wants to be, you wont move fast, but if you go somewhere that no one wants to be and everyone is leaving after they can get another base, then you will move up faster.

I think LGA EMJ is about to become a very junior base in about 6 months, so if I was new I would consider it. JFK and MIA EMJ have been very junior lately, but I do not think it will last. You do not want to go somewhere that WAS junior for awhile but now people are staying, because they will be there for awhile, so you wont see much movement. Both CRJ bases have also been junior since we got some new ones, and they were hiring into it like crazy, however they have staffed them, so I do not think I would want the CRJ, esp the NY side. Thats all I can speak for, do not know much westward.

They will start parking ATR's next year, up to 12 to start with. DFW will be the first to feel the impact.

I don't know about cheaper than the other bases SJU is expensive but definitely fun.

I am supposed to find out today when my class starts, next week I think. However, I am hopeing someone who is a current Eagle pilot can look in the system and tell me, in their opinion, where the most junior bases are right now. I have heard that MIA ERJ then LGA ERJ and DFW ERJ in that order are the most junior. Is this right?
I just want to make the best decision and this is only one if the factors.
Thanks for the help.

Don't let your option be based on solely the chance of holding a line sooner. There is allot of movement at AE happening right now. LAX is the most senior base and is rather small. MIA/ERJ at this time is junior but you will probably never see significant movement (getting the good trips) because most pilots there are senior to you but very junior in the company and thus movement will be slow there. PLEASE, concern yourself with the other QOL factors, are you moving to this place, can you afford to live in MIA compared to DFW. What base would have the easiest commute, different carriers and how many J/S do these airplanes have, are there allot of commuters on this route. 1st year pay is the same, what is the fastest way to a line today will not be tomorrow. DFW was the most senior base 6 months ago, now is becoming extremely junior.

Mia is not a good choice, its filling up and is mostly new guys like the guy above me said. It will see little movement soon, and you would be the bottom of a very junior pile.

LGA EMJ is very senior right now, but IMHO is setup to see explosive movement over the next year because most of the FO base are late 06 to 07 hires, so they are coming up to upgrade, and it will be a ghost town, since there are like 2 guys there hired since March 10.

Congratulations on the class date! I hope you get the base and equipment you prefer.

I have a few easy questions if you don't mind.

1) When did you interview?

2) When did you hear you had been hired?

3) When were you invited to a class?

Thanks for the answers.

is ord still fairly easy to get? which equipment would offer better qol there?

They keep shrinking ORD EMJ it seems. Down roughly 50 lines from last year at this time and about 70 pilots. I've beeen here 4 years and still can't hold weekends off.

Bid by equipment not base. Vacancy bids have been coming out almost monthly with openings to move to almost any base. So if you want Miami, bid the ERJ or the ATR. Chances are the ATR will be SJU out of the gate cause most transfer out to DFW or MIA. Living in base is priceless so bid the equipment that will allow that to happen.

I interviewed aug 16, drug test aug 30. Hope to find out today about class date. Hopefully class will be next week.

Thanks.

Does the drug test come after you have been approved by the decision committee?

Yes, the following week