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PilotJ3 09-21-2011 01:20 PM



Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1057502)
To hold a line in ORD CRJ if you got hired by jan, you would had a line in june. BUT I think that changed since there are no more deliveries and I say is almost staffed. CRJ slots in the last months have been reduced.

I finally hold a line in ORD for October after 8 months. I've only flown like 15 hrs this month (including yesterday and today), I proffer RAP, they call the guys junior than me and I never get a call. After all, I sit home, eat my food, keep the same 75 hr salary and expend less money. :D

Yes but fly less, get less time toward upgrading, less time on your resume if this place goes south to get a new job, and less time in the plane that you will want for the probi ride.
How about this??? I made 500hrs in 6 months. My line is about 85 hrs for october. And I got here with 1500 total time, with 1300 PIC, so I have the time required by any other regional. Those that got hired with less than 800hrs are the ones that have to get worry if this place go downhill.

The probie ride is just another checkride, if you did it with only 40hrs of sim, you can do it with more than 400 hrs on the plane.

And yes, the CRJ you fly more, you will have more flight time, but not that much landings like in the ERJ. So I rather have more approaches and landings that flight time.

Just my .02 cents.

N5139 09-21-2011 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1057305)
Anyone can fly jets. They are way easier to dominate than a turbo prop. With the prop, for example, you will be subject to fly in the mid teens, dodging storms all day long, while in a jet, autopilot on at 600' climb, nav mode all the way to the top. Try 5-6legs a day in and out of busy airports in a prop.Then let me know.

Been there and done that. Try flying an Atlantic crossing and negotiating a French arrival/approach. Then let me know:roll eyes:.


I've flown turboprops in weather. I've flown jets at FL450. Each has its own challenges.

nomgnar 09-21-2011 07:47 PM

Go San Juan ATR!

RJ Pilot 09-22-2011 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by N5139 (Post 1057993)
Been there and done that. Try flying an Atlantic crossing and negotiating a French arrival/approach. Then let me know:roll eyes:.

You could have the same experience negotiating with french arrival/approach down in the islands...:rolleyes:

CzechAirman 09-22-2011 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1057501)
Generally speaking, Embraer aircraft are better than Bombardier. This is coming from years of experience with engineers, test pilots, airline pilots, etc...

With that said, Eagle's CRJs are newer models than the E-145s...kind of like comparing a 2008 Jeta to a 1999 Mercedes. So...they kind of cancel each other out as far as which plane is "better".

The ERJ has FAR more pilots, bases, and routes which means greater flexibility with your schedule.

Fewer pilots on the CRJ side means less time on Reserve. I have actually heard of some CRJ guys who had a line their first month.

On the ERJ side it is currently 7 to 9 months before you can hold a line. However, with enough people below you on Reserve you actually have a higher QOL than a line holder. That is the situation I am living right now...I pick the flights I want, when I want. When I want extra days off I just bid a RAP and sit at home.

The CRJ has first class built in which means you can score meals and drinks that go beyond the ERJ's almonds/cheese tray/water options. This may seem like no big deal now...but trust me when I say that after a LOOOONG duty day, as you get to your hotel at 10pm when everything is closed and you are starving....some almonds and a big bottle of water will make you want to throw the hotel phone out the window.

I chose the ERJ without hesitation. For me the choice was easy as I live in DFW, but even if the CRJs were still based here I still would have picked the ERJ. Like I said before, greater flexibility, more pilots to trade with, and more bases to choose from if/when I move. I just wish we had first class with some nice meals...but oh well.



If you are that hungry and the restaurants are all closed, why wouldn't you pick up the hotel phone and order room service? Most hotel's room service stay open to at least 11pm, if not later.

Stukaju87 09-22-2011 05:10 AM

Think future...
 
While I really enjoy flying the Embraer - look to the future.

Their days are numbered, the CRJ's are the newer favorite choice...for now.

Also, with Eagle's impending divestiture, scope could change dramatically allowing us to fly the bigger a/c's.

Wingtips 09-22-2011 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Stukaju87 (Post 1058282)
While I really enjoy flying the Embraer - look to the future.

Their days are numbered, the CRJ's are the newer favorite choice...for now.

Also, with Eagle's impending divestiture, scope could change dramatically allowing us to fly the bigger a/c's.

ya so pick ERJ and get displaced to a 90 seater!

N5139 09-22-2011 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1058259)
You could have the same experience negotiating with french arrival/approach down in the islands...:rolleyes:


Except IMC conditions down there occur about once every three years in the windwards/leewards:).

I'm bowing out of this one. My perspective comes from multi-leg turboprop/turbofan regional flying and international operations. I found the former to be challenging and the later to be challenging. Your mileage may vary.

RJ Pilot 09-22-2011 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Stukaju87 (Post 1058282)

Also, with Eagle's impending divestiture, scope could change dramatically allowing us to fly the bigger a/c's.

"us"? IF and thats a big IF; AMR gets scope relief, AE will NOT get those "bigger" a/c's. The best protection for Eagle right now is APA scope.

swaayze 09-22-2011 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by subrat (Post 1057757)
Every capt I have flown with on the crj has said that the embryo is a giant pos. Only thing they liked about the plane when they were FO's was the anti ice system.

That's because few of them have ever flown a jet other than the EMB or CRJ. Comparatively I'm sure the CRJ is better. I've flown the CRJ 200 (but not the 700, whole different animal from what I hear) and still consider the EMB to be a decent airplane.

It's not about the airplane, it's about the QOL. Don't forget that and you'll have a much better career.


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