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Dougdrvr 10-27-2011 09:22 AM

Republic Desperate for Cash
 
Republic Studies Jet, Flight-Slot Sales to Reap $113 Million - Businessweek

Selling the horses to buy hay:)

What 10-27-2011 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 1075909)

Scary, also they deferred deliveries as well!
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...blic-190s.html

F9 Driver 10-27-2011 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 1075909)

More like selling horses to buy a car.

Looks like JetBlue sees that those horses aren't that profitable for them either.

JetBlue Details Embraer Cancellations, Deferrals | AVIATION WEEK

What 10-27-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by F9 Driver (Post 1075946)
More like selling horses to buy a car.

Looks like JetBlue sees that those horses aren't that profitable for them either.

JetBlue Details Embraer Cancellations, Deferrals | AVIATION WEEK

JetBlue has chosen to continue growth with Airbus instead flooding the market with EJets, It's no secret that flying 2 A320 in a route is more fuel efficient than 3 E-190 specially in the markets where JetBlue is trying to grow (where slots are a limited) Just like is more economical to run 2 E-190 in a route than 4 50 seat RJs. JetBlue is growing at a fast pace and they are evolving as they do. They don't want to flood the market with EJets when the routes support the Bus.

AMR would love to fly these EJets and park the ERJs. Republic has more problems right now, FFD is not as profitable when your employees demand better wages and are trying to strike. There is a difference when the major owns the aircraft and shops the aircraft and the routes round than when RAH owns the aircraft and shops the route around and you are stuck with an airplane with no routes to fly them on.

Flyby1206 10-27-2011 11:18 AM

The US/DL slot swap in LGA/DCA means some slots will be auctioned off towards the end of Nov. 2 bundles of slots in LGA and 1 in DCA. Whoever doesnt get the DCA slots will probably buy some from Republic/Frontier. Could get interesting

Killer51883 10-27-2011 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 1075982)
The US/DL slot swap in LGA/DCA means some slots will be auctioned off towards the end of Nov. 2 bundles of slots in LGA and 1 in DCA. Whoever doesnt get the DCA slots will probably buy some from Republic/Frontier. Could get interesting


those slots are currently leased back to usair. they were all a part of the whole mid-atlantic/usair bankruptcy deal.

seattlepilot 10-28-2011 09:23 AM

190s are not profitable NOW. When BB bought Frontier oil was $38/barrel and that made the airplane very good financially. JB 's initial order of 190s were up to 90 , now they are limiting it because of increased CASM.
They sold the production of 11 to Azul and deferred some.

RAH is trying to do the same.. If they can get 195s that would even be better but everything is for reducing the cost of each seat..

Saabs 10-28-2011 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by seattlepilot (Post 1076448)
190s are not profitable NOW. When BB bought Frontier oil was $38/barrel and that made the airplane very good financially. JB 's initial order of 190s were up to 90 , now they are limiting it because of increased CASM.
They sold the production of 11 to Azul and deferred some.

RAH is trying to do the same.. If they can get 195s that would even be better but everything is for reducing the cost of each seat..


Huh?? When was oil last around $38?

Jonny Drama 10-28-2011 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1076457)
Huh?? When was oil last around $38?

Early 2009

saab2000 10-28-2011 01:33 PM

Anyone who expected oil to remain at $38/barrel and made long-term decisions based on that information ought to have their head examined. It is a finitely available commodity and the price can only be expected to rise.

skyxbomb 10-28-2011 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jonny Drama (Post 1076461)
Early 2009

More like 1999. But that's besides the point.

tennisguru 10-28-2011 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1076569)
More like 1999. But that's besides the point.

No, after it spiked up to 150/barrel it then cratered it went all the way back down into the 30's. Granted it didn't stay there long, but for a time it was there. After the spike I was able to buy gas once for $1.25/gal before it started rising again.

FlyingKat 10-29-2011 07:43 PM

Just wanted to say good luck to all my friends at Republic. Looks like you guys are in for a rough ride for a while.....

TillerEnvy 10-30-2011 11:18 AM

Actually...Republic would be back to financial health if we can somehow dump the baggage (F9). Worst move BB could ever make.

F9 Driver 10-30-2011 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1077393)
Actually...Republic would be back to financial health if we can somehow dump the baggage (F9). Worst move BB could ever make.

Wow. Just months ago we were the apple of your eye and you spent almost a million dollars of IBT's money to get yourself a piece of Frontier for your very own.

I can't wait for the baggage to be dumped, and have a feeling we will hear you squealing about how you deserve one of the seats being dumped :D

Wingtips 10-30-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by F9 Driver (Post 1077398)
Wow. Just months ago we were the apple of your eye and you spent almost a million dollars of IBT's money to get yourself a piece of Frontier for your very own.

I can't wait for the baggage to be dumped, and have a feeling we will hear you squealing about how you deserve one of the seats being dumped :D

I do not work at RAH, but keep hoping for this, you will then enjoy CH11, then ch7 or being bought by an airline and getting TWA'd.

F9 Driver 10-30-2011 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1077412)
I do not work at RAH, but keep hoping for this, you will then enjoy CH11, then ch7 or being bought by an airline and getting TWA'd.

Or not. Been through chapter 11 and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Thanks for the well wishes though.

xjtguy 10-30-2011 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1077412)
I do not work at RAH, but keep hoping for this, you will then enjoy CH11, then ch7 or being bought by an airline and getting TWA'd.

You ever heard of the Mccaskill bond?

http://mccaskill.senate.gov/newsroom....cfm?id=289277

be76flyer 10-30-2011 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by xjtguy (Post 1077591)
You ever heard of the Mccaskill bond?

http://mccaskill.senate.gov/newsroom....cfm?id=289277

Tell that to the Airtran guys.:(

johnso29 10-31-2011 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by be76flyer (Post 1077640)
Tell that to the Airtran guys.:(

There hasn't been an intergration yet.

TonyWilliams 11-01-2011 07:23 AM

Like is so often the case with grossly immature folks who are allowed to post on internet forums, this one was the usual childish mess.

Thread closed.

Tony


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