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Old 04-27-2017, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891 View Post
It's interesting to hear all of the perspectives on here.

As someone who made the lateral move a couple of years ago and is currently on the inside, here's my take:

There isn't anybody in or around the situation that feels as frustrated by the operational difficulties C5 is experiencing than the flight crews themselves. That being said, it is true that "heads are rolling" at the director level, with changes being made to turn the ship around.

Changes like:

- Appointing a new director of Scheduling
- Appointing a new director of Training

(The above are the two areas where we need all the help we can get)

As for scheduling - They can only do so much with the amount of pilots that we have. A lot of their issues would be solved by having a few more pilots to work with and, lets face it, a little more organizational "know how". The training pipeline is currently being flushed and worked through - The hiring of a ton of instructors is finally starting to pay off. That should alleviate CS's issues, as long as we can keep pumping out pilots.

On the training side - I can personally attest that our on-line instructors consistently outdo themselves when it comes to their jobs. While I'm not in every cockpit, and certainly don't possess an omnipotent vantage point, I know there is not one pilot that is signed off to fly the line that hasn't received proper training, and been properly signed off to operate our aircraft safely. Any perceived lack of training, or understanding, I would imagine is just a snapshot of an overall picture. Yes, organizationally, we are inexperienced with this airplane. Inexperienced, but not unsafe - I see the ASAPS, and I have a unique perspective of having seen them at my former carrier as well - and trust me, some pretty interesting occurrences happened there as well, even with all the experience they have. If it makes anyone feel any better, almost half of the instructor group, Line Check Pilots included, are former XJT, and trust me, we do everything we can to balance the old C5 culture with a fresh take on how to do things in this airplane safely.

As for the CPP - It's a free shot at a job down the road. Of course not everybody is going to be accepted. Unfortunately, those that frequent these forums aren't going to come across many pilots that are participating in the CPP online, since those that are in it don't complain. It's much easier to bash the program than it is to accept not being accepted. We have plenty of people on our seniority list that have gone to UAL with under 5 years on property. I know of several myself that, if things continue as they are now, will have gone from 0 C5 hours to upgrade to UAL in around 2 years. That's pretty astonishing if you ask me.

As for Mr. Commuter that is clearly upset about our weight and balance program - Trust me sir, you are not alone. Our pilots do the best with what they have, and the "glitch" with our stone-age program is being fixed. It takes time.

As said before, things are frustrating here, definitely. C5 is trying to build the house while the foundation is not set in stone. I guess that's partly the price to pay for the quick upgrade and career progression. I tell you what though, there are good people here, and that's what makes the difference.

And let's be honest, and take a real hard look - C5 "took" absolutely nobody's flying. Regional airlines do not own any flying. I'm not just saying that to make myself feel better either. SKYWEST INC. is to blame for XJT's demise - They negotiated a purchase of XJT that included sub-par, money-losing rates, and tried to have labor absorb their losses. When they were able to get in the L-CAL market, they sent all the profitable flying to their non-union side of the house, and left scraps for XJT. It's a crappy situation - I lived it myself.

Hope that sheds some light on the situation. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but sometimes a few more facts need to be injected into all the good stories we see on the internet.

Good night, and good luck to all. Godspeed.
Excellent analysis! As a current XJT pilot, you can rest assured that 99% of the folks I fly with harbor no ill will towards our Commutair brothers and sisters. We're all at the mercy of our dirtbag, penny-pinching "partner". If there's anyone to hate, let's all hate them for not bringing this flying back in house, and lessening the opportunity to enjoy more stable careers.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:10 AM
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I agree, and as a LAMA, I think I can handle it. I don't see anyone doing it with intent to harm. It's just frustrating, and some times we just need to blow some steam off to others who whom know the struggle is real. I do agree it looks like things are starting to go in the right direction. Only time will tell how it will be.

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Old 04-28-2017, 10:35 AM
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I hope you are right. The training delays are starting to go away. If the bids don't keep getting rescinded maybe morale will start turning for the better. The latest bid closes today, so we will see. Recruitment and retention still needs some work. Several key management positions filled lately, hopefully some fresh faces will bring positive changes.
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JimNYC View Post
I'm in the May 1 class. Looks like there will be 11 of us. No other details yet.
Crew room rumors are saying the class was cancelled. Is that not the case?

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Old 04-28-2017, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin View Post
Crew room rumors are saying the class was cancelled. Is that not the case?
Why would they cancel the class? The company needs warm bodies and the training backlog has become unstuck.
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Old 04-29-2017, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin View Post
Crew room rumors are saying the class was cancelled. Is that not the case?
No, it has not been canceled.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:40 AM
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There were 3 classes in May. The 1st the 15th and the 30th. The 15th got cancelled.
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Old 04-30-2017, 02:00 PM
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Every regional gets a sub forum except Commutair? When you click on "other" it's only Commutair threads. Maybe this can be changed?...
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by echoaviation View Post
Every regional gets a sub forum except Commutair? When you click on "other" it's only Commutair threads. Maybe this can be changed?...


I was thinking the exact same thing. Every single thread in other is a commutair thread. It might as well be a commutair subforum.
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Originally Posted by Nevjets View Post
I was thinking the exact same thing. Every single thread in other is a commutair thread. It might as well be a commutair subforum.
I believe other is supposed to be for you, silver, great lakes, etc.
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