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hesitant 12-19-2011 10:00 PM

Eagle Training?
 
Hi, Lets get some pilots at Eagle to write about their training experiences. I have heard that training at Eagle is pretty good. Let's here from everyone including new hires.
Lets be serious. Some training at regionals is terrible. Others is good. Lets go.

rickair7777 12-20-2011 04:13 AM

Eagle is bankrupt and furloughing. I don't think their training program is going to be of much interest to anyone for a few years (maybe a lot of years)

stbloc 12-20-2011 04:14 AM

Eagle is about to loose up to 200 airplanes and your asking about training. Do you live under a rock?

What 12-20-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1104751)
Eagle is about to loose up to 200 airplanes and your asking about training. Do you live under a rock?

What is your source for the numbers (loose up to 200 airframes). I am assuming you are going by the divestiture Form 10, and if that is the case please refrain from posting information like this. Stick to the facts, stop playing Monday morning quarterback. No one knows what is going to happen, the company has an idea and plan but they are still negotiating the leases. We k ow that older airplanes at AA will be parked and that AMR wants to expediate the delivery of new aircraft, we also know that they will receive around 50 737 on 2012 and these are not part of the big aircraft order. Other than that we don't know so please stop spreading rumors.

RJ Pilot 12-20-2011 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1104751)
Eagle is about to loose up to 200 airplanes and your asking about training. Do you live under a rock?

You mean "lose"

Oh and its you're or you are. Stick to flying please.

Salukipilot4590 12-20-2011 06:49 AM

I think the brah is just asking what training is like...

Like an internal review....just for S and Gs

Whacker77 12-20-2011 07:04 AM

So Eagle went from hiring as many as 500 pilots in 2012 to now losing 200 out of 289 planes? That makes sense. In other words, they would go from a pilot group of 3200 to a group of around 1200. Sure.

AMR's bankruptcy has been baked in the cake for months. Everyone knew it was coming as indicated by the large number of pilots who retired at AA in order to lock in their pensions. I'm not saying there's nothing to worry about, but the idea Eagle would be downsized by 70% is not likely.

Fly782 12-20-2011 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Whacker77 (Post 1104849)
So Eagle went from hiring as many as 500 pilots in 2012 to now losing 200 out of 289 planes? That makes sense. In other words, they would go from a pilot group of 3200 to a group of around 1200. Sure.

AMR's bankruptcy has been baked in the cake for months. Everyone knew it was coming as indicated by the large number of pilots who retired at AA in order to lock in their pensions. I'm not saying there's nothing to worry about, but the idea Eagle would be downsized by 70% is not likely.

Well considering they announced the DFW ATRs are being parked forsure and SJU and MIA will fly for the "near future", I would say its not ulikely...

StrikeTime 12-20-2011 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Whacker77 (Post 1104849)
So Eagle went from hiring as many as 500 pilots in 2012 to now losing 200 out of 289 planes? That makes sense. In other words, they would go from a pilot group of 3200 to a group of around 1200. Sure.

AMR's bankruptcy has been baked in the cake for months. Everyone knew it was coming as indicated by the large number of pilots who retired at AA in order to lock in their pensions. I'm not saying there's nothing to worry about, but the idea Eagle would be downsized by 70% is not likely.

Ever heard of Eastern, Pan Am, or more recently, Comair? Anything and everything is possible regardless of the of size of an organization.

block30 12-20-2011 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by hesitant (Post 1104683)
Hi, Lets get some pilots at Eagle to write about their training experiences. I have heard that training at Eagle is pretty good. Let's here from everyone including new hires.
Lets be serious. Some training at regionals is terrible. Others is good. Lets go.

Honest question, why did you post that? I am not trying to start a fight, but that seems like a reeeeeally poorly timed question, because as far as I know new hire training is done, probably for a while....but I might be missing the bigger picture of your meaning.

buddies8 12-20-2011 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by StrikeTime (Post 1104887)
Ever heard of Eastern, Pan Am, or more recently, Comair? Anything and everything is possible regardless of the of size of an organization.

ever hear of AA BK.

The Chow 12-21-2011 04:15 AM

Comair
 
Was in the process of hiring 300 pilots in June of '08. Then one conference call later all new hires were sent home and 300 more would be on the street in 6 months. Fast forward to today and another 400 will be leaving the property within 90 days.

I'm not trying to incite panic but all pilots should be prepared.

Stryker 12-21-2011 07:52 AM

You arent trying to help it either. Where in the world did you get 400?

johnso29 12-21-2011 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 1105617)
You arent trying to help it either. Where in the world did you get 400?

I believe the 400 refers to Comair.

blakman7 12-21-2011 08:59 AM

Why can't anyone on this forum ever post a question without being attacked? Its sad how much immaturity that still roams throughout. Like kids with Cooties

The Chow 12-21-2011 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1105640)
I believe the 400 refers to Comair.


Thanks Johnso29.

Yes the 400 refers to Comair. Not sure how/where the confusion came from but the point was supposed to be A) prepare byupdating your resume and maybe start looking for other flying jobs and B) don't get caught up in the it can't happen to me.

TC

Bobs98tlr 12-21-2011 10:49 AM

To answer the op question AE's training is good. I'd give it an 8 out of 10. Good facilitys, tools, instructors for the most part are great. I've flown on demand, king airs and a citation of all the training I've had eagles was the best.

Yes AMR is bankrupt. No point in starting rumors that we are gonna lose 200 airplanes. As of now we are losing 12 atr's. Everyone don't freak out. We will shrink before we grow. IF we grow again.

snippercr 12-21-2011 12:27 PM

The sim instruction was top of the time.

The ground was okay. The whole time I just felt like we were "going through the motions" to check a box. Even the Oral felt like a formality simply to do it. They told us word for word the questions and sure enough, that's what my oral was. All the safety exercises really were "okay, the FAA makes us do this so let's just get it over with."

I have no problem with self study, but the computer based study was terrible. Just read the AOM2 on your own, then use the animated systems at the academy and you should be good.

IOE instructors have been great instructors and mentors.

As with most large companies, I found there was a lot of hand not talking to the other hand.

Stryker 12-21-2011 02:26 PM

The Chow, I wasnt "attacking" your post, I just misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were implying that eagle would lose 400. Sorry.... Back to your regularly scheduled thread....

stbloc 12-21-2011 04:35 PM

Only 400? We have very optimistic people here. I didn't know 50 seaters were still in demand. I'm just looking at the other BK's and following those templates. This is how I formulate my opinion of the future here.


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