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TeddyKGB 01-16-2012 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1117733)
Jumpseating home, sure, you're on your own. Confronted while on the clock, follow the FOM.



Delta1067 and I work for Delta. DALPA has publicly stated they will not support ANY willful disregard of any company policy. Inadvertent failure to follow they will support you. However, ignorance of company policy is not considered inadvertent at Delta. YMMV where you work.

Thanks JDMJ! I thought the original poster claimed he was at a gate waiting for his jumpseat home. I hear what you are saying but I still think people are being way too overly sensititive here. I also think that people don't realize there is a difference between being confronted/accused of being drunk by a passenger and a passenger just making some idiot wisea$$ remark like the old lady who jokingly asks "you boys ain't been drinking have ya" In the old ladys case I don't feel like I have been accused of drinking. What if a passenger accuses you of being fatigued and says "man you you tired, you ok to be flying". Now what are you going to do?

Justdoinmyjob 01-16-2012 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1117940)
Thanks JDMJ! I thought the original poster claimed he was at a gate waiting for his jumpseat home. I hear what you are saying but I still think people are being way too overly sensititive here. I also think that people don't realize there is a difference between being confronted/accused of being drunk by a passenger and a passenger just making some idiot wisea$$ remark like the old lady who jokingly asks "you boys ain't been drinking have ya" In the old ladys case I don't feel like I have been accused of drinking. What if a passenger accuses you of being fatigued and says "man you you tired, you ok to be flying". Now what are you going to do?

1. The issue isn't whether the person is making a joke or actually accusing you. The issue is the other passenger who overhears the accusation and, not having all the facts, jumps to conclusions.

2. As far as flying fatigued, that is not illegal unfortunately. The headline, "PILOT FLIES WHILE TIRED!" just doesn't have the same drama as "PILOT FLIES WHILE DRUNK!"

flyou11 01-16-2012 11:59 AM


doesn't have the same drama as "PILOT FLIES WHILE DRUNK!"
Careful, somebody just looked up from their desk in the USA Today office.

Molon Labe 01-16-2012 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1117975)
1. The issue isn't whether the person is making a joke or actually accusing you. The issue is the other passenger who overhears the accusation and, not having all the facts, jumps to conclusions.

2. As far as flying fatigued, that is not illegal unfortunately. The headline, "PILOT FLIES WHILE TIRED!" just doesn't have the same drama as "PILOT FLIES WHILE DRUNK!"

Excellent post JDMJ it really sums up the reasons to do the "ops manual" procedure without exception.

shockoe bottom 01-16-2012 03:07 PM

I'd get her # and then spend the night giving her the ol'Gaddafi


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