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SAABDriver 08-09-2005 05:12 AM

F.O. 's are proffessionals.I sit in the left seat now and easily remember the days in the right. The captain and the F.O. are a team. Like a Dr. And a Nurse.....like a Fire captain and his firefighters. Like a manager of a bank and the assistant manager. All important for performance and safety. If someone feels like they are not a proffesional in the right seat they should get out. Because when they go to the left seat you will not know how to treat your F.O. with integrity, proffesionalism and as part of the team.

I also have to agree that right seat time in the sim is not as good experience as flying the line...even in a 13 single op or instruction. the airlines do the sim training when you get hired. why not go out and fly for a jump op, scenic tour, 135 single op, instruction etc. Learn how to make go no go decisions, learn to really fly.

Just my .02cents

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capt.Longthrust 08-09-2005 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Brown Cow
I think the answer is pretty simple. If you add up what a college education costs at one of the better schools, you end up spending the same amount as this program. I also think we need to realize that experience does not come from flying hundreds of hours in a Cessna. Having completed a course with 100 hours in the sim on a DC-9 will give a pilot a much better perspective on what it takes to fly for an airline.

Unfortunately, the article does throw words like "professional" around in very loose manner. Flying 1-2 years in a Dash 8 does not even remotely afford you the right to be called professional. Being a Captain on that 8 after a few years means you are a professional. Developing yourself as an aviator with ideas, thoughts and constructive problem solving will make you a professional.

Finally, the world is made up of rich and poor. Those who graduate from Harvard or Columbia after their $150,000 contribution to their degree, also don't have a real chance at a super life either. I think we take chances, do whatever it takes to make our dreams a reality, and try our very best. Some have an easier road, others do not.

This is one of the most idiotic posts I have ever seen. Flying a sim has nothing to do with flying for an airline. Period. In fact flying is the easiest part of the whole job. Managing, planning, is the hard part that cannot be duplicated in the sim.

I am not going to comment on your whole post except for the professional part. I think you need to find your handy dictionary and look up professional. Your thoughts do not make you a professional. Your ideas do not make you a professional. Your constructive problem solving do not make you a professional. The fact that you are being paid to fly to the best of your ability makes you a pro. Flying .1 hours in a Dash 8, or a J-3 banner towing is a professional. I don't care if you are an f/o or captain. The only difference between the two is seniority.

And yes experience does come from hundreds of hours in Cessnas. Trust me on that one. As you can tell Brown, you have much to learn.

Brown Cow 08-09-2005 07:17 AM

I have attempted to retract my post because there is a little too much experience and professionalism here. Thanks for calling me an idiot and for telling me I have much to learn. I have achieved that which I wanted to, and some pretty smart people clearly felt that I was good enough for the job I have now.

jetlink1175 08-09-2005 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Brown Cow
I have attempted to retract my post because there is a little too much experience and professionalism here.

Translation: I am a student pilot, willing to believe anything programs like CAPT feed me.


Originally Posted by Brown Cow
Thanks for calling me an idiot and for telling me I have much to learn.

No, thank you for pointing out new aviation revelations to us all.


Originally Posted by Brown Cow
I have achieved that which I wanted to,

Your flamebiat was well received young Skywalker.


Originally Posted by Brown Cow
and some pretty smart people clearly felt that I was good enough for the job I have now.

Not sure who these people are, but I want to believe! If all else fails, here's a career with many ups and downs: http://www.ringling.com/

Brown Cow 08-09-2005 08:12 AM

You're an F/O on a lawndart........settle down.

dhc8fo 08-09-2005 10:51 AM

Ohhhh....let the beatings begin (please).


"I have achieved that which I wanted to, and some pretty smart people clearly felt that I was good enough for the job I have now."


And I guess it doesn't take much to impress someone with your janitorial abilities....

dhc8fo 08-09-2005 10:53 AM

By the way... those PDT FOs will get a tremendous pee-pee spank when they get on the line by the crusty old timers who don't much appreciate those kinds of programs. If they have the right attitude, they will be fine. If not, they will be some hurtin' units.

Brown Cow 08-09-2005 11:12 AM

............and now a Dash 8 F/O. How did I get entangled in this mess? I should go back to the majors board; where opinions don't get crushed so easily. If only your Mommies knew how you spoke in public. They would probably take that little picture of you standing in front of your impressive regional aircraft out of their wallets. You know, the one that shows everything that you have accomplished, ie. not being a flight instructor anymore.

WatchThis! 08-09-2005 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Brown Cow
............and now a Dash 8 F/O. How did I get entangled in this mess? I should go back to the majors board; where opinions don't get crushed so easily.

I'm sure you've built stellar credentials at the majors board too, seeing you have a whopping 6 posts - 3 of them in this thread. Instead of "taking your ball and going home" why don't you wow us with your depth and experience.

jetlink1175 08-09-2005 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by WatchThis!
I'm sure you've built stellar credentials at the majors board too, seeing you have a whopping 6 posts - 3 of them in this thread. Instead of "taking your ball and going home" why don't you wow us with your depth and experience.

Eloquently said & delightfully tasteful.


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