No point in going too deep deep into this but I'm one of the XJT crew members who was on the hotel van with this crew the night before. Our layover was a little over 9 hours and they took the shuttle 30 minutes before us the next morning. I don't know of any pilots who are going out to the bars for even one drink on a minimum rest overnight, especially with a show that early. Whatever happened, I doubt it occurred at the hotel bar.

Somebody was bringing their own bottle of Grandpa's Cough syrup, methinks...

At my airline we are allowed to drink on DH flights so long as we are not legal to operate a flight when we get in. Just sayin that's a lousy reason to fire a guy if he wasn't working a flight after the DH.

So is it correct what someone else posted, that this pilot was rude to the driver? Just curious.

When an individual starts learning to fly, they become acquainted with the both the physiological effects and FARs as they pertain to booze. The physiological effects and FARs as they pertain to booze are pointed out to every new hire at their first and successive airline where they become employed.

If they can’t follow the rules, the way the rest the responsible pilots do, then adios. There are way more responsible people out there who may be more deserving of a job then a boozer who lacks the maturity and discipline required for the position.

After 36 years of flying, I have more compassion for the poor responsible schlamiel on the street looking for a job than a life boozer.

So they don't consider the DH as company assigned business?

Actually, that was another crew. One of the pilots from the crew you were with in the van got reassigned to cover the flight after the incident.

I call BS. The crew in question was not on RR. They came in the afternoon before.

It is in our FOM, it says if we are not legal to work within 8 hours of arrival we can drink on the DH flight.

It specifically says a pilot may consume alcohol while deadheading to or from a company assignment. (obviously not in uniform)

I have always felt the need to drive fast. usually I can control it, but sometimes I can't. I just look down at the speedometer and I'm speeding. Something about the brain activity I experience driving fast makes me want it more. When I'm stuck in traffic, even when I have no place to be, my blood pressure goes up for no reason at all. The fact that I can not control my "need for speed" must make it a disease.

If I get pulled over, what disease should I tell the cop I suffer from?