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PinnacleFO 03-06-2012 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat (Post 1146914)
I think he means he heard it while he was at DTW.

No way everything written on APC must be taken word for word. :) Unless he heard it from a gate agent, then you know its true

DENpilot 03-06-2012 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by PropDriver (Post 1146912)
The 135s are being used to cover flying this summer while a bunch of 145s are going through heavy checks

Not true, the 135s are covering C-checks in March only and 5 are actually online in April.

Fly782 03-06-2012 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1147046)
Not true, the 135s are covering C-checks in March only and 5 are actually online in April.

So did you hear this rumor too? I just dont see how putting 135s on these routes would be very effective

200Driver 03-06-2012 08:07 PM

There wasn't a lot of detail but xjet does have the resources, especially if they get say through the end of April, to cover the flying short term till they implement a Q400 training program. I rarely buy rumors but it kinda fits. They already have a presence in IAH / EWR and apparently Jerry Atkin has been spending time with our boy SM.

boyracer 03-07-2012 03:50 AM

What I heard from the training center in last 2 weeks is that we have about another 25 135's parked in kingman. The company put in a bid and they are waiting on United to sign off on paying the additional training cost for new hires ect.....then they will pull them out. But it's never true until they are parked at the gate so I just take it as rumor.

Rama04 03-07-2012 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1147069)
There wasn't a lot of detail but xjet does have the resources, especially if they get say through the end of April, to cover the flying short term till they implement a Q400 training program. I rarely buy rumors but it kinda fits. They already have a presence in IAH / EWR and apparently Jerry Atkin has been spending time with our boy SM.

Flaw:
Do you think Menke is dumb enough to help out the competition of they were getting flying we could renegotiate for?!

What 03-07-2012 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1147155)
Flaw:
Do you think Menke is dumb enough to help out the competition of they were getting flying we could renegotiate for?!

ha ha, I was just thinking the same thing, Let me get this straight, Pinnacle CEO hangs out with the competition, and is going to help them take over the flying that Colgan is doing for UCal, the flying that Colgan is supposedly doing at a loss, and now is going to be picked up by someone who will likely pick it up at profitable rates. Don't forget the little detail that it will cost a lot of money to start a new fleet that happens to be owned by Colgan! Sometimes WoW is what comes to mind reading some of the stuff people put on here,

FlyingKat 03-07-2012 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1147158)
ha ha, I was just thinking the same thing, Let me get this straight, Pinnacle CEO hangs out with the competition, and is going to help them take over the flying that Colgan is doing for UCal, the flying that Colgan is supposedly doing at a loss, and now is going to be picked up by someone who will likely pick it up at profitable rates. Don't forget the little detail that it will cost a lot of money to start a new fleet that happens to be owned by Colgan! Sometimes WoW is what comes to mind reading some of the stuff people put on here,

More like Pinnacle CEO hangs out with the competition, sells out to the competition, and get a nice golden parachute and moves on to a better job without the headaches of his present job.

Not saying I buy this either, but I don't see Skywest just buying the Q operation. The cost of buying the Q operation would be more than just starting it yourself. Plus you would have to deal with ALPA. What does make sense, however, is buying out a competitor cheap and getting more control of mainline lift which gives you more leverage when negotiating contracts with the major airlines.

AxialFlow 03-07-2012 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1147198)
More like Pinnacle CEO hangs out with the competition, sells out to the competition, and get a nice golden parachute and moves on to a better job without the headaches of his present job.

Sounds like he'd be taking a page out of Lorenzo's book.


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1147198)
The cost of buying the Q operation would be more than just starting it yourself. Plus you would have to deal with ALPA.

True...but the Q operation is up and running right now. It'd divert a lot of manpower and company resources for skywest to start a Q operation from the ground up.

I suppose this all pivots on whether or not United wants to play ball and renegotiate the terms of the contract. They'd be setting a bad business precedent and open themselves up to the possibility of other carriers coming forward asking to renegotiate the terms of their contracts. United's not in business to make other carrier's money.

clearprop 03-07-2012 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1147261)
Sounds like he'd be taking a page out of Lorenzo's book.

True...but the Q operation is up and running right now. It'd divert a lot of manpower and company resources for skywest to start a Q operation from the ground up.

I suppose this all pivots on whether or not United wants to play ball and renegotiate the terms of the contract. They'd be setting a bad business precedent and open themselves up to the possibility of other carriers coming forward asking to renegotiate the terms of their contracts. United's not in business to make other carrier's money.

From time to time it has been "rumored" that Skywest has produced training manuals and classroom material for a Q operation. I think the last time I heard about it was back in 2010 when someone snapped a photo of the stuff.


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