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gonyon 03-22-2012 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jetstream 823JS (Post 1156452)
What are you guys complaining about? That's just what CEO guys make. Don't complain, work hard, be thankful you have jobs and maybe someday you will be rich too. And remember to vote republican.

it's class envy. CEO's are job creators.:D What Menke really needs is a tax break. we are putting way to much of teh burden on him.

Crawl 03-22-2012 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 1156547)
it's class envy. CEO's are job creators.:D What Menke really needs is a tax break. we are putting way to much of teh burden on him.

Create job and taketh away!

PinnacleFO 03-23-2012 05:44 AM

another FU Friday with no FU? Just get it over with already!

Colgan Pilot 03-23-2012 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1156614)
another FU Friday with no FU? Just get it over with already!


Still 7 hours left in the business day... not saying its gonna happen today, but the day is still young...

The Juice 03-23-2012 06:17 AM



Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1156614)
another FU Friday with no FU? Just get it over with already!


Still 7 hours left in the business day... not saying its gonna happen today, but the day is still young...
I'd say that next week is the big Friday where it may come. It would be the last Friday before the April 2nd deadline.

All just speculation of course.

Positive_Rate 03-23-2012 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1155746)
I'm sure you watched Titanic. Did you ever see that Captain do anything besides sipping tea?

He also went down with the ship :)

block30 03-23-2012 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Positive_Rate (Post 1156654)
He also went down with the ship :)

You have seriously got to change your avatar because it's FREAKING ME OUT!! :eek:

Tampa 2 03-23-2012 07:30 AM

+1.............

BlueMoon 03-23-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 1156547)
it's class envy. CEO's are job creators.:D What Menke really needs is a tax break. we are putting way to much of teh burden on him.

HA! I know it is sarcasm, but I would venture to guess he has "De-created" many more jobs in the BK of Frontier and the PNCL, Mesaba, and Colgan merger than he ever created.

I also like how the editorial says he is a "proven entity" and gives him credit for steering Frontier through BK. Yea, real genius on his part, the company got bought in BK and is still losing money. He did a used car sales man job and sold a lemon to a sucker.

B00sted 03-23-2012 09:00 AM

There is more going on here with the April 2 supposed deadline..

See SEC Filing by PNCL "Confidential treatment order" 2012-03-08

"Pinnacle Airlines Corp. submitted an application under Rule 24b-2 requesting confidential treatment for information it excluded from the Exhibits to a Form 8-K filed on January 26, 2012"

excluded is the keyword.

RJtrashPilot 03-23-2012 09:36 AM

Does anyone have an email address for Menke? I'll gladly drop him a line to tell him what a frakkin' ass polyp he is.

I can't find any email address at all on Pinnacle's public website.

RJtrashPilot 03-23-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jetstream 823JS (Post 1156452)
What are you guys complaining about? That's just what CEO guys make. Don't complain, work hard, be thankful you have jobs and maybe someday you will be rich too. And remember to vote republican.

I intentionally read sarcasm into this. I hope it was meant to be sarcastic.

MunkyButtr 03-23-2012 10:20 AM

I read an article, might have been postes here, that basically explained his raise as somewhat of a retainer through bankruptcy. I'd like to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and hope he didnt go to the board for this raise rather they gave it to him so he wouldn't leave for something better. From what I have been able to gather the real problem lies with the BOD. The majority holders are unhappy with them and probably for good reasons we know nothing about. Id like to think that Menke didnt ask for the raise, but he didn't decline it either which is what grinds my gears. I had high hopes for this guy and I am dissapointed that he took the raise and has yet to tell his employees anything. I feel like I did when I found out Santa Claus wasn't real.

ChipChelios 03-23-2012 01:53 PM

Bud Light salutes you Mr. Ask for pay cuts and give yourself a raise CEO guy. Chorus "Real american heroooo"

Luv2Rotate 03-23-2012 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by ChipChelios (Post 1156883)
Bud Light salutes you Mr. Ask for pay cuts and give yourself a raise CEO guy. Chorus "Real Men of genius"

Fixed it for ya :)

Avroman 03-23-2012 04:22 PM

I got 3 words for ya in my best Sean Connery voice. " Suck it Trebek "

OnMyWay 03-23-2012 04:34 PM

Let us know if you guys plan on picketing because of this. I'd be glad to help.

dustrpilot 03-23-2012 05:28 PM


Does anyone have an email address for Menke? I'll gladly drop him a line to tell him what a frakkin' ass polyp he is.

I can't find any email address at all on Pinnacle's public website.
Back in the day when I was there it was first initial, last name, @ fly pinnacle.com.
Give it a try, it might work.
I'm sure he gives Shiite though...

The Juice 03-23-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by dustrpilot (Post 1157001)
Back in the day when I was there it was first initial, last name, @ fly pinnacle.com.
Give it a try, it might work.
I'm sure he gives Shiite though...

Exactly...The guy just raped the company for more money that he cries we dont have. He can give 2 craps about an email from an employee

200Driver 03-23-2012 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by ChipChelios (Post 1156883)
Bud Light salutes you Mr. Ask for pay cuts and give yourself a raise CEO guy. Chorus "Real american heroooo"


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1156910)
Fixed it for ya :)

All I have to say is cheers! I am second generation pilot, thus I need two tubes of Vaseline and the hard stuff to make it "okay". How "these guys" get away with this sh** kills me. Hopefully with the recent legislation and supposed pilot shortage coming we can hand a little back..."ride together die together...pilots for life"...

BE19Pilot 03-24-2012 11:59 AM

Another example of top-down leadership at it's very worst...Do as I say, and not as I do. Not only that it completely underminds the ability of middle managers to have any credibility with their subordinates. People don't want to hear, "we are working on it", "we need to improve our metrics", "we had a pretty good week, our controllable delays were...blah blah", that kind of thing just isn't resonating...As pilots we are under the immense pressures of dealing with screwed up pay, middle-managers who are either resume building for the next job, and have no empowerment. Sending patronizing emails IS NOT LEADERSHIP....Basically just tired of the BS...WE GET IT...Operate just like you always have, as professionals...GREAT...Now, management show us LEADERSHIP and not asinine memos and e-mails that we are working in improving our processes...

da_flyn_hawyn 03-25-2012 03:49 AM

Stanky Menke strikes again!

NoLightOff 03-25-2012 11:36 AM

Facing bankruptcy, Pinnacle executives get big pay raise - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee

No mention how they asked the employees for concessions. Great one sided reporting.

block30 03-25-2012 01:23 PM

When is the seniority list going to be updated? There has a fair amount of turnover, and I believe a few newhires since the January list was published.

PerpetualFlyer 03-25-2012 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1157802)
When is the seniority list going to be updated? There has a fair amount of turnover, and I believe a few newhires since the January list was published.

Contractually they have 30 days from July 1st for the next update.

block30 03-25-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1157828)
Contractually they have 30 days from July 1st for the next update.

Thanks! I tried to find it in the contract, but couldn't.

Farva 03-25-2012 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1157058)
All I have to say is cheers! I am second generation pilot, thus I need two tubes of Vaseline and the hard stuff to make it "okay". How "these guys" get away with this sh** kills me. Hopefully with the recent legislation and supposed pilot shortage coming we can hand a little back..."ride together die together...pilots for life"...

Here here brother. I left the industry about a year and a half ago because of all of the crazy issues with the industry and in particular pinnacle corp buying out mesaba. I think it is shameful how menke and jingles get pay raises while there are pilots out there on food stamps and living in sh*t pile places. I moved to LE and well while no place is perfect, let me tell how our chief treats us(equals to CEO). He got all of us challenge coins with our badge and patch to show us that he cares about our morale. He also goes to bat for us to get better pay and equipment. So when the chief or my direct supervisor ask me to come in on a day off or to go above and beyond my normal duties...i have no problem with it because they are there not only to provide me a job but to make sure im successful and able to support myself in a manner where when I come to work I am treated with respect and can feel safe in my position. The CEO of these companies need to take a cue and start doing the right things like treating employees right and making concessions of there own to show support and unity with all employees. Talent doesnt mean squat when the ship is sinking and shows no signs of plugging the hole. Stay strong brothers and sisters..there is a light at the end of the tunnel and if the tunnel leads you to another career, embrace it and remember the good times.

mikeypat15 03-25-2012 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1157828)
Contractually they have 30 days from July 1st for the next update.

or if another Vacancy, or Furlough. I have a feeling they don't want to release one unless they have to. Getting short again on pilots and don't want us to get any leverage (even if there are no negotiations)

The Juice 03-25-2012 04:21 PM

From the article...

"These guys are working very hard, and again, the company is on the brink of something very serious and to stay with the company in times like these really takes commitment," said Lee Harris.

Disgusting. Plain and simple.

Luv2Rotate 03-25-2012 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1157893)
From the article...

"These guys are working very hard, and again, the company is on the brink of something very serious and to stay with the company in times like these really takes commitment," said Lee Harris.

Disgusting. Plain and simple.


Exactly, maybe we should all jump ship. After all, chit rolls down hill and i am lucky if I get paid correctly let alone a raise.

BIGRIG 03-25-2012 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Farva (Post 1157884)
Here here brother. I left the industry about a year and a half ago because of all of the crazy issues with the industry and in particular pinnacle .

Nevermind.

Windsor 03-26-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by mikeypat15 (Post 1157887)
or if another Vacancy, or Furlough. I have a feeling they don't want to release one unless they have to. Getting short again on pilots and don't want us to get any leverage (even if there are no negotiations)


Last I checked we had over 1800 pilots on the Pinnacle side of things. Thats 600 more than we've been operating with since I got here 5 years ago. We are NOT short pilots because of lack of numbers, we are short pilots because of the royal fluster cuck 11-09 is.

Noseeums 03-26-2012 09:35 PM

ahhh rednecks... look at them adding and subtracting

clearprop 03-30-2012 09:32 AM

Pinnacle Reaches Height Of Hypocrisy With Executive Pay Raises

Diesel450 03-30-2012 10:07 AM

So the CFO leaves, they give menke and another guy a raise to do his (CFO's) job. Now they promote someone to do the CFO's job, with out the title....nice one guys.

form8-k.htm

tom14cat14 03-30-2012 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Diesel450 (Post 1160439)
So the CFO leaves, they give menke and another guy a raise to do his (CFO's) job. Now they promote someone to do the CFO's job, with out the title....nice one guys.

form8-k.htm

I thought that was funny too. Last night and this morning i had to do dispatches job and partially a few others job. So i think i should get a 60% pay raise. I am sure everyone out there has a story or 2 just like this. It is called doing our job and doing what we have to in order to get things done. I believe the CEO's job includes running a successful company and whatever it might take to do that.

Diesel450 03-30-2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1160445)
I thought that was funny too. Last night and this morning i had to do dispatches job and partially a few others job. (maybe the guy sitting to my left that didnt want to raise a finger for anything) So i think i should get a 60% pay raise. I am sure everyone out there has a story or 2 just like this. It is called doing our job and doing what we have to in order to get things done. I believe the CEO's job includes running a successful company and whatever it might take to do that.

Nothing like calling Dispatch to get and alternate added to the release, when within the releases own wx, it shows we need one....

dingo222 03-30-2012 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Diesel450 (Post 1160449)
Nothing like calling Dispatch to get and alternate added to the release, when within the releases own wx, it shows we need one....

and the day we file bk, i will quit making those calls to dipscratch and screw scheduling.

sinsilvia666 03-30-2012 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by dingo222 (Post 1160485)
and the day we file bk, i will quit making those calls to dipscratch and screw scheduling.



i dont even bother calling anymore, just a single acars is all they get from me. they can do the math and figure out why the plane isnt moving on their own.


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